to lose most of the gains
"> nothing like all or nothing by the market scammers, It took just two or
> three weeks for years of stocks gains ( many times up after investors
> left) to be lost.. a coincidence? NOT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "estalavi" <estaviv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:
sci.environment,alt.business,pa.politics,phl.media,md.general
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:17 AM
> Subject: Lung Cancer ,Stock Fraud and Truth in life
>
>
>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family for more ways
to
>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the
big
>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and
>> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape you,
>> without trying to sponser alternatives fast enough or strong enough.
If
>> it
>> stopped there that would be one thing. Knowing the news stations keep
>> consolidating also shows the intent of rich getting richer and anything
>> is
>> possible. For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
>> protecting people from harm from pollution. Some places more affected
>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of the
air
>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer, rarely
are
>> they studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they
>> wanted
>> to show harm. Stock brokers and online trade investors often play
against
>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you
>> come
>> on line to watch porn and trade stocks they will take your money. Its
>> like a
>> golden rule to them and don't think they can't know your investment
>> history
>> or how likely you will buy and sell ..aka go opposite your play. Your
>> money
>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find
>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it. The willful evolution
>> of
>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your big
>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions)
and
>> market makers. Seriously it don't matter how good a stock is.. the
people
>> in
>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play
if
>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse ,
who
>> said stocks are reasonable? Even me when I say not to put a stop order
>> in for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the
>> few times in history a stop order might be needed. Its like whatever
>> option you choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously.
>> Take going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot
,
>> if you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! The
>> companies whose crop prices are blamed its going up to fast so they
lost
>> value too. The only plays that win are the stock companies and insiders
>> who know when to buy after you lose.. Read more about this later. so
>> lies, taking
>> your money and poisoning people in the US is going full blast.. so help
>> me
>> god , some of course more then others.
>> the most unbelievable destruction of values that is going on in the
>> market
>> and in daily life continues and
>> is ignored.
>> this is just my opinion
>>
>> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the more
money
>> you
>> put in the more reasons the scum in the markets can bet against you and
>> you
>> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just
>> opposite
>> your positions!!!!
>>
>> Please read the whole long post and send it to many people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on the
>> conclusions I left below:
>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>>> ownership?
>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of
>>> the
>>> world?
>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>>
>>>--------------------------------
>>
>> ----- ,tx.politics
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
>> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert
>>
>>
>>>> >
>>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my opinion
>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a
>>>>> reason
>>>>> for
>>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs (
>>>>> same
>>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not in
>>>>> the
>>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,
>>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker
upgrades,
>>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it don't
go
>>>>> up
>>>>> enough.. read on, The stock
>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually
goes
>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for
big
>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . This
post
>>>>> I
>>>>> got more email then any other.
>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is
real
>>>>> links
>>>>> to real studies .
>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in
usually
>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it
to
>>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short markets) . But it can
>>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just
>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be
>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
>> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money shows
>> up.almost
>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring
it
>> back up when your no
>> longer
>> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (
>> usually when the least
>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to
>> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast
after
>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
>> vulnerable
>> and only they make the profits.. and just start the process
>> over and over. Insiders and money market
>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too be
>> commissions. Don't ever
>>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my opinion. I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price WITHIN
>>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,
>>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68,
again.
>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
>>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they
can
>>>>>>>>>> get away with it. then I bought a stock in real time that was
>>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I said to
>>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at real
time
>>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone raised
it
>>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
>>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents seconds
>>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. This is in
>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders. Never invest in
Scott
>>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to other ways to get
your
>>>>>>>>>> money and this is legal? lol Legal what? . Never ever
>> put a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out . Never ever
day
>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing
>> is
>> to wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day traders
>> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market
>> makers or brokers play
>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
>> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to
be
>> played against!! . the human element is killing
>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the wind...
>> . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the stock
>> price
>> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went
for
>> however long they want
>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes this
>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into
>> the
>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six months
>> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago
and
>> this is really true.
>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against Where
>> does
>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency recent
>> decision ( I
>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners
to
>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and
fewer
>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
>> viewpoints.
>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view points.
>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality = write about here.
>>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is true
>>>> what
>>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find
out.
>>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big
>>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry fix
>>>> things have unfair advantages
>>
>> violence and pollution is ignored in general elections and we have
>> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more people
>> studies to show the cost of harm from all this
>>
>> . Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your
>> knowledge, ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your uncle
>> never had and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought
such
>> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,, rarely
going
>> up
>> the same percentages if at all , but if you were to know which ones
the
>> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going
up
>> that fast almost a dead certain bet...and be played against.. as the
>> ..The ones that go up the most ...all just happen to fall beneath the
>> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says
>> something.like
>> .."TILL Wall Street
>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
>> it... Why woulda stock stop going up
>> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more
>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of
course,
>> now
>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the
US.
>> The
>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as more
>> and
>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
>> people.
>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been made
>> to
>> show studies of such things yet millions of people are not told how
>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner
>> talk
>> about bad spinanch in Canada or out west then talk about real dangers
>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with
>> it. I
>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran this
>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in
>> our
>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Why because they can?
>> They
>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on
>> here
>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of
the
>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
>> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god.
Face
>> it
>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The
>> media
>> would rather sell oil and kill their own population but then sell
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only
knew
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days we don't get clean
>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a study for they can
just
>>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop complaining)
>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and
not
>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be
>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better.. Trust me its
happening
>> in
>> certain areas., its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if
>> tv
>> news can sell
>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or
>>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. People say
>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answer
>>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course
>>>>>>>>>> the
>> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I write
>> about to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision ( I
think
>> the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that allows Tv station owners to
>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and fewer
>> different owners, and less different perspectives of freedom of
diverse
>> viewpoints.=and objectivity.
>> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
>> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general
>> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically
come
>> to
>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing
>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some
>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
>> more still then most of the world but thats not
>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
>> in the US
>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>>
>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to
>>
>> $800
>> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If
>> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit
>>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. In
>> american the rich and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally
and
>> they
>> get to do it daily . How in the hell can they then get more
legislation
>> to
>> keep getting more ways to
>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also
>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist
>> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press
>>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when it
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag the
>>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.
>>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider
>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have
>>>>>>>> watched
>>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.
>>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate
stocks
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your
>>>>>>>> investment..its
>>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can
do
>>>>>>>>
>>> Finally there are millions without jobs,
>> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering
>> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on
>> they
>> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a
>> machine
>> that seldome recognizes what you just said.
>> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the
caller
>> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this to
>> keep
>> people on telephon foreever before someone live answers. Its not like
>> people can't do the same job better because they can! Why hire people?
>> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> there are people who get
>> commercial
>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air every
>>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who
get
>>>>>>> clean air. . The largest
>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The
>> peoplewho
>> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded
>>>>>>> streets or malls
>> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or
downwind
>> from coal have much more illness then
>> the people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things.
.
>> there are people who can't afford food or health
>> care, yet we bring millions more people here who often need help
also!!!
>> Everybody hates one another and
>> only
>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from
>> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its
>>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation.
You
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often
>>>>>>> combined
>> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?
>>>>>>> Remember this about stocks
>>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They
>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your
>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>> to sell.
>>>>> The republican role models and democrats
>>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror,
>>>>>> violent
>>>>>> crime, murder,
>>>>>> dependency on court
>>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role
>>>>>> models
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions.
Most
>>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and
yet
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.
>>>>>> God help us
>>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is
>>>>>> happening
>>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of
death
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or
>>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW
>>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security
>> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going
to
>> need it
>> to survive.
>> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,
>>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not
>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians
and
>>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that
>>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie
stars,
>>>>>>> and the weather ,
>>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like
robots,
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore
in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> future.. and they
>>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after
>>>>>>> you..Get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our
>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding
cause
>>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters
to
>> even
>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their
>>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.
>> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they need
>>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they want.. Some
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective ... so you
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> how abuse of control filters
>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and
>> end
>> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help
>> people
>> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue the
>> violent spin off?
>>
>> about stocks..
>>
>>
>> saw such set up and controls and
>>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make
>>>> no
>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?
>>>> Look
>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money
you
>>>> have
>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over
others.
>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>>> crap.....We
>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity
>>>> between
>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim
>>>> thats
>>>> the price you
>>>> pay by being ignored.
>>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth
>>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>> and news
>>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and
Jerry
>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and
>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>>> WW
>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are
>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing
people
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy , and go to
>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> night without
>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be
>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest concern
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for
years.
>>>>>>> Go
>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes
>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.
>>>>> cameras,
>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and
kids
>>>>> can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take back
>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let
gangs
>>>>> take
>>>>> control for
>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged
to
>>>>> stay together? . >>
>>>>
>>>> We should
>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear
>>>>> horrible
>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on
>>>>> without
>>>>> a
>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people
murdered
>>>>> and
>>>>> shooting
>>>>> of
>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on
inspite
>>>>> of
>>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do
anything
>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their
health
>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing
their
>>>>> life
>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all
that.
>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have access
>>>>> to
>>>>> speak out.
>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I
>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab
>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>> and
>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
>> it..Man Face it when the same stations use the same stories over and
over
>> and
>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then
>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or
>>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking more
>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing the
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse
traps?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't
keep
>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those who
are
>>> not.
>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect families!
>>> so
>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the
>>> damages
>>> of
>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care
about
>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with
their
>>> life for decisions they had no power of. First never smoke, I did and
>>> this
>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced
>>> though,
>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the most
>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to examine
>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and where,
and
>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that
people
>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their
>>> health,
>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much
clean
>>> air
>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared to
>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the
same
>>> good habits.
>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets with
>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> People in the US are self destructing.
>>> mcsantpollution@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Our role models have left us
>>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we
have
>>> more
>>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder is
the
>>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups. Drug
use
>>> is
>>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.
>>> Pollution
>>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!
>>> .., rich get more rules
>>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people who
>>> are
>>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or
>>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media
>>> consolidation ignores most everything important. while the world hates
>>> by
>>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones more
>>> ways
>>> to
>>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but
>>> instead
>>> of
>>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are
>>> horrific (some of you have
>>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are
>>> destroying
>>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more to
>>> doctors
>>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You will
see
>>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness but
>>> few
>>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen in my
>>> lifetimes. .What ,is going
>>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to be
>>> played
>>> against by insiders, Its not how good a company is its how much of
your
>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to
then
>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>>>
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>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, being
>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. How
do
>>> I
>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday. I have air filters that turn black
in
>>> less then 30 days.. I want an investigation about what is going on
here.
>>> I
>>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am thinking
>>> there
>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>>> protected
>>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so many
days
>>> without clean air.
>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is
like
>>> the twilightzone. Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We are
>>> getting
>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for allergy
and
>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business telling
you
>>> why
>>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What is
>>> going
>>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime
>>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What is
>>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to
>>> people
>>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous our
>>> kids
>>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on here.
>>> Please
>>> we need lawyers now , and
>>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable
>>> remember I told you so Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in
>>> Philly
>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best
>>> reviews.
>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
>>> negative
>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or schizophrenic)
.
>>> If
>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to rest
>>> of
>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed we
>>> have
>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. I now am
>>> completely
>>> beside myself with harm done and I want comparisons to show
productivity
>>> and
>>> how much more so then people who got clean air. I seriously think we
>>> need
>>> a
>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected the
>>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to
continue
>>> for
>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>>> depressed
>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>>> respiratory
>>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> We
>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of
gasoline,
>>> to
>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read on
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>>
>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and
cancer
>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path of
>>>> coal
>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city
prettty
>>>> much
>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about worsening
>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten
>>>> years.
>>>> ,
>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence,
>>>> (then
>>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads to
>>>> target
>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because politicians
>>>> let
>>>> it
>>>> happen.
>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or cab
>>>> driver
>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50 also
>>>> looks
>>>> way older then his
>>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point if
>>>> you
>>>> can
>>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or
>>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good air
>>>> then
>>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house
>>>> pollution,,, . You would then not be surprised we are number one for
>>>> asthma
>>>> ,
>>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in
>>>> cancers
>>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do horrible
>>>> in
>>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all your
>>>> not
>>>> told any of this by your newstations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city with asthma and
>>>> respiratory
>>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our
>>>> number
>>>> of
>>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also show
the
>>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then I
>>>> might
>>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said Philly
>>>> had
>>>> 200
>>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It may
>>>> have
>>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate zone
>>>> or
>>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say whatever
you
>>>> want
>>>> without showing the reality of the situation.
>>>>
>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>>
>>>>
http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>>
>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>>
>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>>
>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>>
>>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>>
>>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,
>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>>> California
>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25
minutes
>>>> to
>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the
board
>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
>>>> particles
>>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>>
>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern
>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure
to
>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
>>>> hardening
>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>>
>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in
over
>>>> a
>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's not
>>>> like
>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months to
>>>> years."
>>>>
>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>>> yourself;
>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 report
by
>>>> the
>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during
>>>> commutes
>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented
>>>> diesel
>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,
buses
>>>> and
>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>>
>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>>> alternative
>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
>>>> traveling
>>>> with little truck traffic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>>>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>>
>>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: new
>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air
contributes
>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent of
>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, or
>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5
>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population
was
>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have serious
>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and these
>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>>
>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>>
>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug
>>>> 2007
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or caring
>>>> they
>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in
>>>> polluted
>>>> air
>>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs and
>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give medical
>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that will
>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the
>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>>
>>>> The
>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is the
>>>> same
>>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who live
>>>> and
>>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the most
>>>> time
>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and
live
>>>> near
>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot
>>>> lives
>>>> of
>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
>>>> pollution
>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the last
>>>> twenty
>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people who
>>>> get
>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly no
>>>> fault
>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together in
>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to human
>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me
god.well
>>>> what
>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born
>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I have
>>>> done
>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of
>>>> pollution
>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent ill
>>>> effects
>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to
lessen
>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world? I had to scream every day and
>>>> tell
>>>> people I can't breathe which I couldn't before someone did some
things
>>>> but
>>>> the percentage of time people get good air is still too few. That
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> be so bad had it not been the case they are cheated out of good
health
>>>> and
>>>> still are and not told. Why should I care If they don't? It says the
>>>> world
>>>> is a very depressing place to live if we default to harming people
and
>>>> when
>>>> people complain , make a timeline for 2020 to fix it while the people
>>>> who
>>>> profit by it get to keep doing it. . what kind of role models do we
get
>>>> for
>>>> allowing this to happen. I am saying people in PHilly and pa are
being
>>>> allowed to lose their health for no good reason when so much more can
>>>> be
>>>> done now. ( also in many other areas close to pollution and on east
>>>> coast.
>>>>
>>>>Ps I say to all Israelis get out of Israel now, your going to be
>>>>destroyed,
>>>>I sense it and feel it and with all the craziness and arming in the
>>>>world
>>>>its not if , its when. The people in the world are insane and can't
seem
>>>>to
>>>>get along with each other, and ignores many things to justify power.
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>>>
>>>
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years of gains.. lol what a joke..
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