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Re: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values

by Igor The Terrible <igor_the_terrible@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 21, 2008 at 10:29 PM

On Jan 21, 11:20=A0pm, "steb" <ste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values ,
Spread=

> of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence.
> Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to care
> most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now defauting
t=
o
> control and censure****p and violence more rules for rich and big
business?=

> Do other places have it worse? Absolutely but that doesn't make what is
> happening here anybetter.
> Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they dont'
ta=
lk
> to you anymore lol)
> My email: mcsantpollut...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be
long.
> They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will end
i=
n
> the markets? When the most people get out, thats when the stocks will go
> back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi schemes.
> I wonder why doing the right things often =A0don't count anymore even in
t=
he
> US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes
> without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of
> percentages of land and people or religion =A0Because know that
=A0leaders=
 and
> gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab
Govs)=

> and democracy and freedom to =A0diminsh. (US) =A0I wonder why things go
ha=
ywire
> and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to do
> what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad times
th=
e
> rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often who
i=
s
> set up for pain pollution violence or Big business ripoffs in oil and
cred=
it
> cards etc.
> In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming about
> because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders
ignore
> complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more
day=
s
> without good air. , =A0because the rules for the rich keep growing at
the
> expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you
hav=
e
> to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about the
> cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets.
=A0Busines=
s is
> good when fair, its bad and contributes =A0to recession when its
unfair.Ri=
ght
> now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on oil,
an=
d
> big business interest rates and their influence is not fair
>
> > I ws told to shorten my message but I urge you to protect your family
fr=
om
>
> real conspiracies. I at least told you and I am not happy having to tell
y=
ou
> but someone does. The things going on in America is not all good . So
here=

> goes, I am sorry if it sounds too long and drawn out. I seriously
believe
> everything I write about with all my heart.
>
> There are many conspiracies in the US based on power and control. One
can
> say power and control influences all societies in the positive and
negativ=
e.
> One needs to have very powerful allies ( armies often enought) to attain
> power. How to maintain power and really promote freedom for everyone
with
> equal op****tunities for everyone based on our Constitution is the US way
o=
r
> was. If I am wrong I am sure to hear about it. In the rest of the world
,
> there is no guarantees of freedoms and fairness and this is what makes
or
> made the US great. Now I am afraid, the freedom to control and abuse
power=

> has been mandated by the way our elected politicians been elected to
power=
,
> basically by allot of money. If you need allot of money to come to power
> your not going to represent all people fairly and while some people can
ge=
t
> elected thru hard work and little money most people can't . Politicias
=A0=
need
> to be rich =A0usually to be elected and so if you need to be rich or get
> special interests to sup****t you, power and government representation is
n=
ot
> for the average people its for the rich that need special rules in order
> often to do the wrong things and maintain power and thats what has been
> happening in our policies. Big business has been allowed to corrupt our
> policies. Big business doesn't have to be bad but when you can't
maintain
> power unless you pay someone else off to influence special legislation ,
t=
he
> idea for and by the people is trashed in difference to who has the most
> power.
> Why has this been allowed to happened and what are the ramifications?
News=

> cor****ations and tv news has been consolidated by fewer and fewer of the
> same companies and people. The things that need to be examined are swept
> under the rug so special interest and advertisers who of course have
been
> consoldiating for long time can only get their messages out if only
becaus=
e
> they have more money and at the worse because the peoople who own the
> stations might have a tendency to air only certain view points
> Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We
will
> soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to
all =
if
> we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.
> =A0People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are
> forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford
to
> complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because
afte=
r
> all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people
aroun=
d
> me complain about limited access and censure****p now from our local abc
> channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from
> phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free message
> boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who
don't
> trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for
whateve=
r
> reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to
> rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of
> frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed
how
> frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show
why=
 I
> am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of
all=

> and everyone is given equal op****tunity but its simply not happening
> anymore. We live in an informational age so there are many
contradictions
> going on now about what is really happening and what is allowed to
happen.=

>
> =A0Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not
told=
 en
> mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has
> harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes now
w=
e
> know more of the consequences and the changes while happening need to
happ=
en
> faster to reverse global warming and keep people from being harmed from
> pollution. News and tv of course can keep quiet about the damages in
order=

> to collect payment from drug companies and asthma and nebulizer
medication=

> companies instead of telling people why and if they are being harmed.
Ever=
y
> day in this life I am made to breathe moderate or worse particulate
> pollution I have trouble breathing. I believe the only fact left that
hasn=
't
> been proving conclusively is if MODERATE doesn't mean in reality
harmful. =
I
> have trouble believing our government doesn't know of this damage and
can'=
t
> do more to stop it instead of making more rules for the companies that
emi=
t
> it to allow it to continue at least to the year 2020 or 2025 . Why do I
ha=
ve
> to then search for studies to show harm from pollution and be the only
one=

> to put some of the links together to show cause and effect. Are people
goi=
ng
> to see my links or believe me over their government or leaders? Of
course
> not, yet that is what I am saying is happening . My air filter turns
black=

> in 29 days and this is what people who get moderate pollution face and
of
> course even more ominous is also increasing illness much moret then
people=

> who get clean air too. My contention =A0is and please remember this for
yo=
ur
> families, that people are being adversely harmed by breathing pollution
th=
e
> closer they live and work to polluted and congest streets, malls, bus
depo=
ts
> and truck depots and in states and cities with few days of good air
=A0and=
 or
> with most pollution compared to people with good air . There is a huge
> descrepency in health and lost savings that can be measured if they want
t=
o
> . One can though fill in the pieces with the links that I have from
> pollution damage, that more or less shows harm in areas that have been
> tested for pollution and its affects. Realize because of big business
and
> our energy companies who are often very rich, and influential =A0all
this =
is
> not packaged together as being a major concern for danger =A0from news
and=

> business. Please remember your city doesn't have to get the most
pollution=

> for you to be at risk because studies suggest and I am here to verify
that=
,
> by =A0just breathing moderate pollution can be harmful as in particulate
> pollution. Why this comparision of health based on pollution is not
being
> done or compared is one way not to inform people of their probable harm
fr=
om
> this. Yet the gov does put out the measurement of this pollution and
other=

> sites judge the quality of air in different places. Whats sad is even
when=

> one knows of the dangers some people can't afford to move , There are
> already tens of thousands homeless and basically thats the only way I
coul=
d
> afford to move to clean air places. I will provide the links to some of
th=
e
> dangers after this.
> Now I will try to talk about big business and evolution of the stock
marke=
t
> which I believe causes many if not most average investors to lose
> To cut to the chase, big companies have more ways to rape you because of
> legislation that allows them to charge you interest if you don't pay
your
> credit card bills . I payed one bill on time every month and I still
> eventually got a bill for 39 dollars for being one day late so help me
God=
 .
> Of course I sent the bill days before the due date but eventually that
don=
't
> spell profits so they can claim they didn't get it in time and ruin your
> credit by lying and making you pay for that. In addition with credit and
> penalites one can be gouged by huge interest rates and penalty fees.
> Oil prices and the dependency of such has contributed to more health
bills=

> due to pollution and of course more expenses then most anything in our
liv=
es
> combined., instead of mandating with alternatives sooner, and at least
> protecting the people at most at risk we still have done precious little
t=
o
> bring or mandate changes sooner. The free market system don't work and
is
> not protecting children or the planet from harm because big business has
> unfair advantage to not bring forth these things sooner.
> Now the evolution =A0of the stock market and the possible manipulation
who=

> have unfair advantage . Has this trading system always been this unfair
? =
I
> dont know, this much I do know,
>
> > Once your money shows up in stocks or a horse =A0in a =A0race,
especiall=
y big
> > money the less chance your stock or gamble will win. . over and over
aga=
in
> > you will lose and believe me often they know why after of course you
los=
e.
> > Its like a factory where they try to rationalize your losss after you
> > already lost and they gained or right before. The streetcoms and
market
> > gurus have quotes always ready about broker comments to justify the
loss=
..
> > Someone says the industry is tanking or crop is rising prices and thus
> > profit will suffer. Whats amazing these things like stocks tanking so
fa=
st
> > in spite of terrific ratings for week after week prior to your
investmen=
t
> > tanking ...What makes the changing conditions happen where your
investme=
nt
> > loses so often? YOUR MONEY showing up ,, thats the golden rule in
> > horseracing or in stocks. once it shows up the big boys find ways to
go
> > against your play.
>
> =A0 =A0 In fact I bet you, you =A0will lose much more
>
>
>
> > then you will gain. Stocks have evolved.. to where your money shows up
i=
ts
> > played against.
>
> > I found the exact theory in horse racing too but like who cares right?
> > Look I try to explain in more detail below, but to be crude it all
comes=

> > down to this: (stocks) They all go down relative to how many people
> > invested
> > and when. When the kitty ( pot) gets too saturated, its time to clean
ou=
t
> > the peoples investment no matter how good. sometimes its becauses
inside=
rs
> > selling with good information and other times its because brokers know
> > something you don't but often they don't have to even have a
reason..the=
y
> > say stocks move for no particular reason when they don't have to give
a
> > reason =A0Well don't believe it, believe this, once your big money
shows=
 up
> > thats when the stocks start going opposite your play over and over
again=

> > ..Thats the changing condition they talk about. =A0This recent
recession=

> > where the nasdaq went down more in two weeks then in two years in the
up=

> > market. Why because its easier to take your money faster then slower.
>
> This is =A0not the first time the good stocks that were popular took a
div=
e
> that way remember early 2000?
>
>
>
>
>
> >> coincidence when the markets tank they tank fast and take your money
do=
wn
> > wih it =A0Its no accident =A0when they go up and write about
> > great movers, your stock is not the one they talk about =A0you should
ha=
ve
> > had. The stocks that skyrocket are always without your money in it
just
> > under the radar. I guarantee your uncle was not in it either. Gosh I
jus=
t
> > missed playing that one! lol why is that?
> > Stocks are a bonafide ponzi scheme.. Why is that , because they can!
> > -----
>
> >> Please read what I wrote below and tell me if it all seems just the
> >>price of a free market system or paranoia.
> > Are there good things about US? Yes for sure food, internet, free
speech=

> > but
> > lots of things going haywire too.
>
> >> We need election reform
> >>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family from more
ways=

> >>> to
> >>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year
the
> >>> big
> >>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers
and=

> >>> Insiders =A0and oil companies and utilities =A0find more ways to
rape =
you,
> >>> without trying to sponser alternatives or fairer ways to act fast
enou=
gh
> >>> or strong enough. I
> >>> just got a bill from BP credit card division and they charged me 39
> >>> dollars after they claim I
> >>> sent the payment one day late., =A0It was actually sent days before
du=
e
> >>> date..I guess they can claim to give you 5 percent back if you get
> >>> charges on your credit card for false things you didn't do. In
additio=
n
> >>> I have to call them about protection services I never asked for.
They
> >>> say they can't control what others charge me .. BS, and will have to
> >>> call each time some service they contracted out with decide to bill
me=

> >>> lol what a freakin set up. Scott trade says they will give you $100
> >>> dollars to switch to them. You want see the Horrific prices they
gave =
me
> >>> after I filled out a sell order? They more then made up for their
100
> >>> dollars switch. Have complaints about cell phone or phone bills? How
> >>> many past bills and time do you have dealing with sprint who laughed
a=
nd
> >>> hung on me after putting me on hold for hours. Whatever they say
could=

> >>> ruin my credit and suffice to say I dont' pay $50 late fees so you
can=

> >>> imagine how many people don't care about their lost credit due to
big
> >>> business fraud.
> >>> This is what big business is now allowed to do to you because they
can=

> >>> and its not just one company. Sprint charged me for phone and time I
> >>> never used. Literally robbed me and re****ted to credit agency. I owe
> >>> 5000 for something I never received. When you complain you talk to a
> >>> machine that cant understand english or they put you on hold knowing
> >>> they don't know what to say to you cause so many complain about the
sa=
me
> >>> things.. I
> >>> then after swearing all this happens ask people if they are
surprised,=

> >>> they can then get away at poisoning you and not tell you enmass that
t=
he
> >>> pollution levels that constrict my breathing automatically at so
calle=
d
> >>> moderate or worse pollution levels is ok to ignore as long as you
don'=
t
> >>> want to move. Thats basically the argument is if you are having
> >>> breathing problems because you complain about quality of air, its
not
> >>> whether the damages are real or rated f or not, its who can ignore
you=

> >>> anyway or force you to move when you often don't even have a job
anywa=
y
> >>> to pay for outrageous costs of fuel and housing anyway.Who said
making=

> >>> sense or rational reasoning makes more sense then hate, ignorance
and
> >>> control? It doesn't. We talk about manipulation of news and such
aroun=
d
> >>> the world, but face it we are allowing almost the same consolidation
o=
f
> >>> the news stations in our country although like here on newsgroups I
> >>> still have the freedom to say things others don't. Even though Yahoo
a=
nd
> >>> Philly blog and message boards on tv stations websites =A0are now
ofte=
n
> >>> censured, I suppose technically speaking I can't claim we are not
> >>> totally censured in the US now as long as I have access to
> >>> newsgroups.Controlled yes, ignored by politicians yes, =A0for big
busi=
ness
> >>> and people who control? Yes, but not total censure ****p.
>
> . =A0Business is good, if its fair, its horrible when Big>>> Business
and =
people are allowed to honestly take advantage of
>
> =A0people.There are many other differences between rich and poor that
need=
s
> =A0to be addressed.> . For ten years I tried to show how news and our
epa =
is not
> >>> protecting people from harm from pollution, by at least showing the
> >>> links
>
> =A0or asking for studies to show harm correlated to amounts of pollution
> people get. =A0Or by comparing
> amounts of time people live and work near pollution or without clean
air>>=
> .and then re****t about how much risk compared to others =A0these living
> >>> and working conditions =A0and exposure brings
>
> between polluted and non polluted population . Instead all the tv
stations=

> and major news has done is talk
> =A0about global warming to some mild degree ignoring harm pollution
brings=
..To
> see the links to damage ignored is like a lesson of ignoring the reasons
f=
or
> anything that makes sense. or that actually happened. The epa is simply
no=
t
> protecting people and even after being sued the leaders still default
over=

> and over again to allowing polluters more time to hurt people in
different=

> rulings that bypass protecting kids and babies and adults at risk. I
claim=

> there is more illness, more death , more money spent to treat
conditions,
> more dependence on harm and less good sleeping less good learning and
less=

> productivity if measuring harm from pollution was really studied in
detail=
..
> At the end you will see my links to pollution damage ignored by the news
> many times at the expense of those who can't move or are =A0vulnerable
wit=
h
> additional control allowing the news and tv stations to instead =A0of
tell=
ing
> people who are exposed, ,target advertise =A0meds to treat the condition
t=
hese
> people get after exposed and ignore the reasons why they get the
condition=
..
> The incredible set up of hurting people and not protecting people
because
> they can. is now a control and value system in the US.This somehow is
good=

> enough to produce jobs though.
> If people were to see how seasons disappear practically in little less
the=
n
> 40 years is to see the damage global warming and possibly more pollution
> brings. They talk about one or two degrees swing in temperatures. In my
ar=
ea
> its produced seasons that use to get snow to seasons that seldom get
snow.=

> It produces averages that are often five or six degrees warmer and maybe
> even more harmful if the number of people who need asthma and
respiratory
> drugs are factored into a study they dont' seem to want to do.
>
> =A0 >>> The big money from coal and utilities has made the changes slow
> because
> =A0 >>> any changes that doesn't immediately do much more to =A0stop the
> pollution
> =A0 >>> harming people who get the greatest percent of days without
clean =
air
> and
> =A0 >>> or greater amounts of polluted air isn't enough
> =A0 >>> Some places more affected
> =A0 >>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution
of =
the
> air
> =A0 >>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer or
h=
eart
> disease, rarely are
> =A0 >>> the studies based on pollution numbers although they could if
they=

> =A0 >>> wanted
> =A0 >>> to show harm.Yet they could . in more and more places the
percenta=
ge
> of days without good air keeps growing .They don't often measure that
> stat,or the ramficiations But I did and its very harmful. Humans need
good=

> air to sustain good quality of life. =A0instead =A0many in policy say
defa=
ulting
> to you that your simply in area that is not the most polluted so stop
> complaining. Fortunately I saw where this way of thinking ignores that
man=
y
> people get sick simply because of the percentage of hours and =A0days
and
> months and years are simply lived not in good air. People start gettins
si=
ck
> faster without good air and thats the part that they use to hide and
can't=

> anymroe since I posted that stat.
> Now business in the US and stocks
>
>
>
>
>
> > Now (Stock
> > brokers and online trade investors often play against
> >>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once
you=

> >>> come
> >>> on line
> >>> and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like
> >>> a
> >>> golden rule to them , and don't think they can't know your
investment
> >>> history
> >>> or how likely or fast =A0you will buy and sell ..All they are
allowed =
to
> >>> do is go against your =A0play especially the more money you invest.
Th=
is
> >>> ulitmately means the more you now invest the more you now lose. .
=A0Y=
our
> >>> money
> >>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will
find
> >>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it.. I honestly
believe =
in
> >>> the stock market and horse racing is when the more investment
invested=
,
> >>> the more
> >>> people win when =A0your play loses .. another wards more chances you
l=
ose
> >>> based on how much you risked =A0. Over and over again the investors
lo=
se,
> >>> someone else gains. =A0I =A0am protesting is the unfair advantage
insi=
ders
> >>> and market makers , maybe
> >>> brokerages have to leverage against your big money. Its like they
know=

> >>> when it shows up often because the same people who bet against you
pum=
p
> >>> the things they hope you invested in, =A0so they can bet against you
a=
t =A0a
> >>> later date.. The
> >>> problem of course is they have unfair inside knowledge of how to
proce=
ed
> >>> to win capitalizing on going against your money when it shows up.
When=

> >>> all my stocks tanked over and over especially on highly rated plays
I
> >>> would always see someone who won come online and tell me on message
> >>> boards why they won and I lost as if I needed a reason to justify
why =
I
> >>> lost? =A0. My
> >>> contention that stocks and other gambles are played against started
> >>> years
> >>> ago when relatives in college along with a professor worked out a
> >>> winning
> >>> strategy at the track. They followed the strategy for a year and
were
> >>> fairly certain the system would work. It worked all the time fake
bets=

> >>> ( on paper)
> >>> were placed. Once though the real money showed up. the horses and
play=
s
> >>> lost. That was the end of horse racing for them. Later as I invested
i=
n
> >>> stocks, i saw basically the possibility that the same things
occurred.=

> >>> Stocks that did good on paper, seldom matched that performance once
bi=
g
> >>> money showed up. =A0The willful evolution of
> >>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your
=A0=
big
> >>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions
fo=
r
> >>> sure at least with them) and
> >>> market makers. Seriously REMEBER this ,it don't matter how good a
stoc=
k
> >>> is.. the people
> >>> in
> >>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your
play =
if
> >>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse
,
> >>> who
> >>> said stocks are reasonable? =A0Most of the time however they have
brok=
ers
> >>> Quoted for explanations right while the stock tanks..Those links are
> >>> left at stock message boards for investors to ponder as why your
great=

> >>> play has all of a sudden turned south. =A0Broker says bla bla
.happene=
d,
> >>> which is every possible reason changing conditions made your loss
> >>> inevitable I will tell you what made your loss REALLY The conditions
> >>> that made it lose... YOUR MONEY SHOWED UP and maybe others all long
or=

> >>> short and that my friends are the changing conditions that allowed
> >>> insiders and brokers to go against your play and they can't lose..
you=

> >>> must lose...Never put a stop order in , they almost certaintly will
ta=
ke
> >>> it low to scoop it up and claim every reason possible why they
needed =
to
> >>> do it. . =A0Even when I say not to put a stop order in
> >>> for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the
fe=
w
> >>> times in history a stop order might =A0have be needed.actually
occurre=
d.
> >>> Its like whatever option
> >>> you choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously.
They
> >>> have unfair inside knowledge to be used against your investment.
> > Take
> >>> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot ,
i=
f
> >>> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated. or
> >>> invested in defense industry or computer you probably lost. =A0The
> >>> companies whose crop prices are used, are now said has gone up too
muc=
h
> >>> and demand is too low... . Whatever it takes to say whatever to
levera=
ge
> >>> their money against yours is legal. This is my honest to Gods
opinion.=

> >>> Can you make money ? I guess, I certainly have not and no one i know
h=
as
> >>> . i don't know if this is how it use to be or its changes over the
yea=
rs
> >>> but I am guessing its changed over the years. The only plays that
win
> >>> are
> >>> the stock companies insiders
> >>> who know when to buy after you lose or get out and sometimes after
you=

> >>> invest also and MM and I am guessing brokerages who are in it to
pump
> >>> and
> >>> dump.... Read more about this =A0How popular and great is your
stock? =
The
> >>> more popular and the more money
> >>> you
> >>> put in the more reasons the people in the markets can bet against
you
> >>> and
> >>> you
> >>> lose,.. the markets =A0don't =A0have to go down =A0for you to lose,
ju=
st
> >>> opposite
> >>> your positions!!!!
>
> >>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on
th=
e
> >>> conclusions I le
> >>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
> >>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
> >>>> owner****p?
> >>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
> >>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries
of=

> >>>> the
> >>>> world?
> >>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
> >>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
> >>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
> >>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
> > Do you see credit card companies and big business have a lock to ruin
yo=
ur
> > credit and charge outrageous fees ? If they lie, how much time do you
ha=
ve
> > to save every letter and transaction? And mark my words they will lie
to=

> > collect and steal from you because they can. They will throw in
charges =
on
> > your bills and claim that was part of the game they call business ,
how
> > much time do you have to counter them?
> > Congress is now a group of people who basically make rules =A0for the
ri=
ch
> > because
> > millionaires sup****ted their wins in elections.
> >>>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my
opinion
> >>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a
> >>>>>> reason
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs
(
> >>>>>> same
> >>>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not
in=

> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,
> >>>>>> trans****tation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker
> >>>>>> upgrades,
> >>>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it
don't =
go
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>> enough.. read on, The stock
> >>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually
> >>>>>> goes
> >>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for
b=
ig
> >>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! .
> >>>>>> My email mcsantpollut...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
> >>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is
> >>>>>> real
> >>>>>> links
> >>>>>> to real studies .
> >>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
> >>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
> >>>>>>>>>> invested
> >>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in
usual=
ly
>
> go down,
> =A0especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to
> =A0go up ( . But it can
> =A0happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
>
>
>
> >>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have
=A0jus=
t
> >>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back =A0don'
b=
e
> >>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
> >>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
> >>> chances are great =A0your wave will break as soon as your big money
sh=
ows
> >>> up.almost
> >>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then
bring =
it
> >>> back up when your no
> >>> longer
> >>> in the stock =A0.- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up
(=

> >>> usually =A0when =A0the least
> >>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). =A0and you say
=
=A0to
> >>> yourself I should have just stayed in =A0right? Who buys back so
fast
> >>> after
> >>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
> >>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
> >>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
> >>> vulnerable at higher prices and only they make the profits.. =A0and
=
=A0just
> >>> start the process
> >>> over and over. Insiders and money market
> >>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like a big company =A0I used
> >>> because
> >>>cause of =A0commissions. =A0I saw a stock in
> >>>>>>>>>>> real
> >>>>>>>>>>> time selling for
> >>>>>>>>>>> approx $11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price
WITHIN=

>
> SECONDS IT was $11.54,,
> dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
> =A0sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for $11.68,
again.second=
s
> later
> =A0Do I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
> =A0prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can
> =A0get away with it, is it legal? Why should it be? . =A0 then I
> =A0bought a stock in real time that was
> =A0going for approx$ 44.39. I made>>> a buy order and within five
seconds =
the price was$ 44. 80. Did I have to
>
> =A0buy ? no but I said to
> myself its remotely possible the market price is honest =A0but as
> soon as I looked at real time
> after I bougght the price was $44: 38 again .. someone =A0raised it
> =A0close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
> =A0coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down =A0fifty cents seconds
> =A0later. They can say I didn't have to buy but I can say is it
> =A0legal to raise the price to whatever they can get after you fill
> out a market order/ maybe it is maybe its not, its surely not
> =A0ethical!
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) =A0both trades within seconds..
=A0this =
in
> >>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get =A0your
> >>>>>>>>>>> money from big business.. =A0 Legal what? =A0. Never =A0ever
> >>> put =A0a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out , the
market=

> >>> makers can swoop down and find a reason why the stock dropped so
fast
> >>> and
> >>> bring it back up after the stock tanked to get your stop order .
Never=

> >>> ever day
> >>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best
thing=

> >>> is
> >>> to =A0wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day
trad=
ers
> >>> lose.!!!!! not because they made the wrong trade, they lose because
th=
ey
> >>> know what you bought and they know you are waiting for a gain fast..
T=
he
> >>> market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market
> >>> makers =A0or brokers =A0play
> >>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
> >>> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is
to=

> >>> be
> >>> played against!! =A0. the human element is killing
> >>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the
=A0wind..=
..The
> >>> key questions are this if money market protect the value of the
stocks=

> >>> why should insiders and others gain from your lack of insight all
the
> >>> time/? . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating
th=
e
> >>> stock
> >>> price
> >>> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went
f=
or
> >>> however long =A0they =A0want
> >>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes
thi=
s
> >>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? =A0Your guess, its built
in=
to
> >>> the
> >>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six
month=
s
> >>> later talk how horrible the =A0exact site they pumped a few months
ago=
 and
> >>> this is really true.in order to take your hard earned dollars, its
lik=
e
> >>> a
> >>> ponzi scheme.
> >>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
> >>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against
=A0Wh=
ere
> >>> does
> >>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce =A0agency
rec=
ent
> >>> decision ( I
> >>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that =A0allows Tv station
owners=
 =A0to
> >>> increase the concentration of owner****p almost =A0assures fewer and
=
=A0fewer
> >>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
> >>> viewpoints.
> >>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view
=A0point=
s.
> >>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality
> >>>>>..The stock that go
>
> go up the most ...all =A0just happen to
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> fall beneath the
> >>> radar, =A0and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone
says=

> >>> something.like
> >>> .."TILL Wall Street
> >>> discovered =A0it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
> >>> it... Why woulda stock stop =A0going =A0up
> >>> when =A0wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the
mo=
re
> >>> likely to go up? OOPS =A0Its seriously =A0a giant ponzi scheme.? Of
=
=A0course,
> >>> now
> >>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the
U=
S.
> >>> The
> >>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this =A0country.as
m=
ore
> >>> and
> >>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
> >>> people and harms people yet many children and adults =A0are not
protec=
ted
> >>> from getting too much of this daily or informed of its dangers.
> >>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been
mad=
e
> >>> to
> >>> show studies of such things yet millions of people arestill =A0not
tol=
d
> >>> how
> >>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would
sooner=

> >>> talk
> >>> about tummy tucks or depression =A0in midwest then =A0about real
dange=
rs
> >>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away
with=

> >>> it.
> >>> I
> >>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran
thi=
s
> >>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here
in=

> >>> our
> >>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Thats the MOST
> >>> depressed
> >>> and most asthma,, totally ignored. =A0Why because they can? and they
c=
an
> >>> sell ads for health care instead. Suffice to say when i showed links
t=
o
> >>> show harm here they ingored me as did the politicians.
> >>> They
> >>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going
on=

> >>> here
> >>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of
t=
he
> >>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
> >>> C O N T R O L and harm =A0is more im****tant then truth so help me
god.=

> >>> Face
> >>> it
> >>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on.
=A0Th=
e
> >>> media
> >>> would rather stay mum about =A0oil and coal and deisel pollution
,kill=

> >>> their own population but then sell them
>
> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only =A0knew
> =A0pollution levels realitive to harm,
> =A0, or percentage of days we don't =A0get clean
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> air does to people =A0you would know why ignorance is bliss
an=
d
> >>>>>>>>>>> not re****ting things spells control of wrong values.
> >>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us
=A0and=
 not
> >>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to
be=

> >>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better. but do nothing
> >>> immediate
> >>> to save people most at risk. its shameful. Trust me its happening
> >>> in
> >>> certain areas., =A0its the Gods truth. =A0in the area.. People say
>
> =A0write
> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answers from no
> responses.
> =A0ya..Thats the mentality of leaders knowing your value to them. and
that=
s
> the ,
> =A0the meaness of society now. Where harming you can be ignored Of
course
>
>
>
> >>> >> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
> >>> write bout here. The violence in society is often =A0ignored in
genera=
l
> >>> elections by =A0politicians and national news =A0and =A0we have
basica=
lly come
> >>> to
> >>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members
withoutdoing
> >>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
> >>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in
some=

> >>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
> >>> more still then most of the world =A0but thats not
> >>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
> >>> in the US
> >>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
> >>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>
> >>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
> >>>>>>>>>>> care..
> >>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
> >>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
> >>>>>>>>>>> themselves
> >>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
> >>>>>>>>>>> reform.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
> >>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
> >>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
> >>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go
to
>
> > 600dollars because they could .
> >Why well of course they can
> >>>>>> get your money fster that way!!! =A0 Make
> >>>>>> no
> >>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids
bully=
?
> >>>>>> Look
> >>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much
money
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate =A0or
th=
e
> >>>>>> best
> >>>>>> mouse trap yu can make over others.
> >>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
> >>>>>> crap.....We
> >>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity
> >>>>>> between
> >>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. =A0If your a
victi=
m
> >>>>>> thats
> >>>>>> the price you
> >>>>>> pay by being ignored. and not represented by Gov. We need
election
> >>>>>> reform badly.
> >>>>>>>>> Re****ters =A0would sooner ask question I want answered as the
To=
oth
> >>>>>>>>> fairy.
> >>>>>>>>> The idea of
> >>>>>>>>> tv
> >>>>>>>>> and =A0news
> >>>>>>>>> is to get cute
> >>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
> >>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows
=A0and=

> >>>>>>>>> Jerry
> >>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know
you=

> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If
you=
r
> >>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>> out of
> >>>>>>>>> state or another
> >>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Cor****ations
an=
d
> >>>>>>>>> big
> >>>>>>>>> oil
> >>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
> >>>>>>>>> spirited,
> >>>>>>>>> WW
> >>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
> >>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or
are
> >>>>>>>>> taking
> >>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
> >>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing
> >>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> love
> >>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy =A0I can't
> >>>>>>>>> control
> >>>>>>>>> or influence =A0, and go to sleep
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> night without
> >>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to
be
> >>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not
> >>>>>>>>> always
> >>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. with no responses from
politicians=
..
> >>>>>>>>> Change might take place but its too slow and too late for many
.=

> >>>>>>>>> Seriously the next biggest concern =A0I
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> besides crime is
> >>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
> >>>>>>>>> trans****tation
> >>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for
> >>>>>>>>> years..
> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Phil says I need to go out and find a job.. oh ok...
Right, =
Go
> >>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
> >>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They
ha=
ve
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>> hope
> >>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime
come=
s
> >>>>>>>>> close
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
> >>>>>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and
frisk.
> >>>>>>> cameras,
> >>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and
> >>>>>>> kids
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> identify
> >>>>>>> danger before they are =A0in jeopardy. Job Training! Do we
empower=

> >>>>>>> kids
> >>>>>>> to take back
> >>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional =A0situations or do we
let
> >>>>>>> gangs
> >>>>>>> take
> >>>>>>> control for
> >>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families
encourage=
d
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> stay together? .is it fair to give ex criminals jobs over people
w=
ho
> >>>>>>> need training and never did crime?
>
> >>>>>> We should
> >>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
> >>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. If I were to really describe
real
> >>>>>>> deterrents most people would rather see the expectation of 30
> >>>>>>> thousand
> >>>>>>> kids and women and men murdered each year at least instead of
doin=
g
> >>>>>>> more to stop these criminals. =A0Torture is when good people
hear
> >>>>>>> horrible
> >>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going
on=

> >>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people
> >>>>>>> murdered
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> shooting
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on
> >>>>>>> inspite
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area, Fbi is making a
databa=
se
> >>>>>>> for dna.. how about doing that at birth? .Not one idea to do
> >>>>>>> anything
> >>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
> >>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their
> >>>>>>> health
> >>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> life
> >>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all
> >>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have
acce=
ss
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> speak out.
> >>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers.
I=

> >>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab
> >>>>>>>>>> production
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
> >>>> it..Man Face it =A0these countries we then give aid to have no
obliga=
tion
> >>>> to fight for peace or freedom without hate..
> >> . when the same stations use the same stories over and over
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more
th=
en
> >>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>
> >>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
> >>>>>>>>>> bye
> >>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
> >>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone
els=
e.
> >>>>>>>>>> But
> >>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs
or
> >>>>>>>>>> depression
> >>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking
more=

> >>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing
the=

> >>>>>>>>>> right
> >>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse
> >>>>>>>>>> traps?
>
> >>>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------=
------=AD---------------------------------
> >>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't
> >>>>> keep
> >>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those
who=

> >>>>> are
> >>>>> not.
> >>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect
familie=
s!
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
> >>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the
> >>>>> damages
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with
> >>>>> their
> >>>>> life for decisions they had no power about? =A0First never smoke,
I =
did
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced
> >>>>> though,
> >>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the
mos=
t
> >>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to
examine=

> >>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and
where,=

> >>>>> and
> >>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that
> >>>>> people
> >>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing
their
> >>>>> health,
> >>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much
> >>>>> clean
> >>>>> air
> >>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Pro****tion when all things were
compared =
to
> >>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had
the
> >>>>> same
> >>>>> =A0habits.
> >>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working =A0on
streets =
with
> >>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.I
> >>>>> believe
> >>>>> anyway..
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> People in the US are self destructing.
> >>>>> mcsantpollut...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> Our role models have left us
> >>>>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder
is
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups.
Drug
> >>>>> use
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.
> >>>>> Pollution
> >>>>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!
> >>>>> .., rich get more rules
> >>>>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people
w=
ho
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or
> >>>>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media
> >>>>> consolidation ignores most everything im****tant. while the world
hat=
es
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones
more=

> >>>>> ways
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but
> >>>>> instead
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are
> >>>>> horrific (some of you have
> >>>>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are
> >>>>> destroying
> >>>>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more
to=

> >>>>> doctors
> >>>>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You
will
> >>>>> see
> >>>>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness
bu=
t
> >>>>> few
> >>>>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen
in =
my
> >>>>> lifetimes. .What ,is going
> >>>>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to
be=

> >>>>> played
> >>>>> against by insiders,. REMEMBER DON"T SMOKE EVER, .. and =A0Its not
h=
ow
> >>>>> good a company is its how much of your
> >>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed
to
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>
>>>>>http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=3Dview=A4t=3D=
....
> >>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered,
being=

> >>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down.
How=

> >>>>> do
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday in it and when I am not in
=A0that=

> >>>>> type
> >>>>> of air I don't have
> >> constricted lungs.
> >> My air filters turn
> >> black in less then
> >> 30 days
> >> I >>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am
> >> thinking
> >>>>> there
> >>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
> >>>>> protected
> >>>>> from refinery and industry pollution =A0and auto exhausts and so
man=
y
> >>>>> days
> >>>>> without clean air.
> >>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this
is
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> the twilightzone. so should we not complain when someone like me
see=
s
> >>>>> all this happening? =A0Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer.
We=
 are
> >>>>> getting
> >>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for
allergy=

> >>>>> and
> >>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business
telling=

> >>>>> you
> >>>>> why
> >>>>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What
i=
s
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime
> >>>>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What
i=
s
> >>>>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to
> >>>>> people
> >>>>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous
o=
ur
> >>>>> kids
> >>>>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on
here.=

> >>>>> Please
> >>>>> we need lawyers now , and
> >>>>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable
> >>>>> remember I told you so =A0Our teams seldom win, American Idol
=A0was=
 in
> >>>>> Philly
> >>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon =A0and California got the
best
> >>>>> reviews.
> >>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
> >>>>> negative
> >>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or
schizophrenic=

> >>>>> surprised@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) .
> >>>>> If
> >>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to
re=
st
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how
harmed =
we
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. . I
seriously=

> >>>>> think we need
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected
t=
he
> >>>>> people here. =A0The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to
> >>>>> continue
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
> >>>>> depressed
> >>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
> >>>>> respiratory
> >>>>> disease =A0and its all ignored. God help --\
> >>>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------=
--
> >>>>> We
> >>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
> >>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of
> >>>>> gasoline,
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read
o=
n
>
> >>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>
> >>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and
> >>>>>> cancer
> >>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path
o=
f
> >>>>>> coal
> >>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city
> >>>>>> prettty
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about
worsenin=
g
> >>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
> >>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming
ten
> >>>>>> years.
> >>>>>> ,
> >>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more
violence,
> >>>>>> (then
> >>>>>> average) kids not learning, =A0and horrible health ratings and
ads =
to
> >>>>>> target
> >>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because
politician=
s
> >>>>>> let
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> happen.
> >>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or
cab=

> >>>>>> driver
> >>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50
al=
so
> >>>>>> looks
> >>>>>> way older then his
> >>>>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point
i=
f
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or
> >>>>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good
ai=
r
> >>>>>> then
> >>>>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house
> >>>>>> pollution,,, . You would then not =A0be surprised we are number
one=
 for
> >>>>>> asthma
> >>>>>> ,
> >>>>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in
> >>>>>> cancers
> >>>>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do
horrib=
le
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all
you=
r
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> told any of this by your newstations
>
> >>>>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city =A0with asthma
and
> >>>>>> respiratory
> >>>>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our
> >>>>>> number
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also
show=

> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then
I=

> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said
Phill=
y
> >>>>>> had
> >>>>>> 200
> >>>>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It
m=
ay
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate
zo=
ne
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say
whatever
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> want
> >>>>>> without showing the reality of the situation.
>
> >>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>
>>>>>>http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=3Dhealthcheck&id=3D5653450=

>
>
>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=3DAivfw=
a5A...
>
> >>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>
> >>>>>>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>
>
>>>>>>http://www.mega****tal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=3DX3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y=
1Z2...
>
> >>>>>>>http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=3D4935559
>
> >>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>
> >>>>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>
> >>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
> >>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>
> >>>>>> pollution and heart disease
>
> >>>>>>http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>
> >>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers
> >>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature
death,=

> >>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
> >>>>>> California
> >>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25
> >>>>>> minutes
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the
> >>>>>> board
> >>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to
ultra-fine
> >>>>>> particles
> >>>>>> can occur during a commute.
>
> >>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of
Southern=

> >>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term
exposure=

> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
> >>>>>> hardening
> >>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>
> >>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in
> >>>>>> over
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's
n=
ot
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months
t=
o
> >>>>>> years."
>
> >>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
> >>>>>> yourself;
> >>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007
re****=
t
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels
during=

> >>>>>> commutes
> >>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio,
documented
> >>>>>> diesel
> >>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,
> >>>>>> buses
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>
> >>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those
on
> >>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
> >>>>>> alternative
> >>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
> >>>>>> traveling
> >>>>>> with little truck traffic
>
> >>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>
>>>>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-i=
n...
>
> >>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>
> >>>>>> Dying For a Change -
>
> >>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause:
new=

> >>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
> >>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air
> >>>>>> contributes
> >>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80
percent =
of
> >>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
> >>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
> >>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
> >>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
> >>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people,
or=

> >>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere
2.5
> >>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the
population
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have
serious=

> >>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and
the=
se
> >>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
> >>>>>> incidence of diseases."
>
> >>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>
> >>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13
Aug
> >>>>>> 2007
>
> >>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or
carin=
g
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in
> >>>>>> polluted
> >>>>>> air
> >>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet =A0then worrying =A0about a
drug=
s and
> >>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give
medic=
al
> >>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that
wi=
ll
> >>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from
the
> >>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is
th=
e
> >>>>>> same
> >>>>>> like diet and =A0bad habits =A0is the differences between people
wh=
o live
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> work =A0in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the
m=
ost
> >>>>>> time
> >>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and
> >>>>>> live
> >>>>>> near
> >>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone
ot
> >>>>>> lives
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
> >>>>>> pollution
> >>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the
last=

> >>>>>> twenty
> >>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people
w=
ho
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly
n=
o
> >>>>>> fault
> >>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in
together =
in
> >>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to
huma=
n
> >>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me
> >>>>>> god.well
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were
born
> >>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I
hav=
e
> >>>>>> done
> >>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers
of
> >>>>>> pollution
> >>>>>> (coal , trans****tation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent
il=
l
> >>>>>> effects
> >>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to
> >>>>>> lessen
> >>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world when the country that is
> >>>>>> suppose to care most about doing the right things and freedom is
no=
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All the more reason to rabidly guard the second ammendment with your
life.  It is the only REAL check and balance between the people of
this country and their unscruplous, piece of **** government.
 




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Re: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, V
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Re: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, V
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