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Re: Antarctica stubbornly refuses to cooperate with global warming

by Addinall <addinall@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 6, 2008 at 03:42 PM

On Apr 7, 6:54=A0am, "Tomasso" <Toma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "V-for-Vendicar" <Just...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
messagenews:=
dd9Kj.50431$612.32552@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> 1998 14.57 **************************0
> >> 1999 14.33 *****************0
> >> 2000 14.33 *****************0
> >> 2001 14.48 ************************0
> >> 2002 14.56 ***************************0
> >> 2003 14.55 ***************************0
> >> 2004 14.49 *************************0
> >> 2005 14.63 *******************************0
> >> 2006 14.54 ***************************0
> >> 2007 14,57 *****************************0
>
> > I see that you have dishonestly altered the plot yet again.
>
> > Here is the original.
>
> >> No problem. Here are the figures for the last decade.
>
> >> 1998 14.57 *********************o*****
> >> 1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
> >> 2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
> >> 2001 14.48 ************************o
> >> 2002 14.56 *************************o**
> >> 2003 14.55 **************************o*
> >> 2004 14.49 *************************>>o
> >> 2005 14.63 *****************************o**
> >> 2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
> >> 2007 14.57 *****************************
>
> Exactly what are the ">"s?

That's the temperature you have when you're not
having a temperature!

**** me, I can draw a ruler down that dataset!

I suspect that this child may want to teach us some basic math now.

I just spilt my tea.  Damnit!

Cheese,
Marky.

>
>
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Nothing at all.
>
> > =A0Just a warming of roughly 2'C per century...
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> =A0Hardly anything in nature can follow a linear relation****p
>
> > A statement that illustrates your profound ignorance.
>
> > In reality over a sufficiently chosen time frame, everything in nature
> > follows a linear relation****p.
>
> > I don't think your KKKonservative Liedeology has managed to disproved
> > Calculus.
>
> > MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> and that data my boy, is as close to a flat line that you can get.
>
> > =A0It shows a increase of approximately 2'C per century. =A0(Standard
Li=
nerar
> > Regresssion)
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOONNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Here are the figures for the years 2002 -2004
>
> >> 2002 14.56 =A0***************************0
> >> 2003 14.55 =A0***************************0
> >> 2004 14.49 =A0*************************0
>
> >> Care to plot a line?
>
> > =A0I could, but the correlation coefficient would be too small for it
to=
 be
> > meaningful.
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Here are the figures for the years 2005 - 2007
>
> >> > 2005 14.63 =A0*******************************0
> >> > 2006 14.54 =A0***************************0
> >> > 2007 14,57 =A0*****************************0
>
> >> Care to plot a line?
>
> > =A0I could, but the correlation coefficient would be too small for it
to=
 be
> > meaningful.
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Here are the figures for the years 1998 - 2000
>
> >>> 1998 14.57 =A0**************************0
> >>> 1999 14.33 =A0*****************0
> >>> 2000 14.33 =A0*****************0
>
> >> Care to plot a line?
>
> > =A0I could, but the correlation coefficient would be too small for it
to=
 be
> > meaningful.
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Using a simplistic linear regression on an incomplete
> >> set of data is meaningless.
>
> > Since it is a time series, and time is infinite, the set will never be
> > complete. =A0Hence by your AHAHAHAHAHA "logic" performing a regression
o=
n a
> > time series is always meaningless.
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> =A0It might suck in the great unwashed, but fools no-one with any
level=
 of
> >> statistical
> >> ability.
>
> > =A0So you have been utterly fooled then.
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> The sample I just provided from your data, in three sets
> >> of three observations, tells a different story than the one
> >> you wish to promote. =A0Doesn't it?
>
> > =A0Nope. =A0Since the three subsets are statistically insignificant.
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> You should concentrate on fini****ng high school.
>
> > =A0Been there, done that, got the t-****rt. =A0Then went on to quantum
> > mechanics.
>
> > =A0MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
>
> >> 2007 is the second warmest year in history. 2005 the warmest.
>
> > "Addinall" <addin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> Crap. =A0Pure and simple bull****.
>
> > 2007 Tied for Earth's Second Warmest Year Andrea Thompson
> > LiveScience Staff Writer
>
> > January 16, 2008
>
> > The year 2007 has tied 1998 for the Earth's second warmest this
century,=

> > NASA
> > scientists announced today.
>
> > Climatologists at the agency's Goddard Institute for Space Sciences
(GIS=
S)
> > in
> > New York used temperature data from weather stations on land,
satellite
> > measurements of sea ice temperature since 1982 and data from ****ps for
> > earlier
> > years to construct a record of global average temperatures going back
fo=
r
> > over a
> > century.
>
> > The GISS analysis has 1934, 1998 and 2005 tied as the warmest years in
t=
he
> > United States (with 2005 being the warmest globally).
>
> > The eight warmest years globally in the past century have all occurred
s=
ince
> > 1998, and the 14 warmest years have all occurred since 1990.
>
> > The greatest observed warming in 2007 occurred in the Arctic, which
> > experienced
> > a record sea ice melt this summer, opening up the fabled Northwest
Passa=
ge
> > for
> > the first time.
>
> > "As we predicted last year, 2007 was warmer than 2006, continuing the
st=
rong
> > warming trend of the past 30 years that has been confidently
attributed =
to
> > the
> > effect of increasing human-made greenhouse gases," said NASA GISS
Direct=
or
> > James
> > E. Hansen.
>
> > A minor flaw in the GISS record discovered last year did not affect
this=

> > analysis, the scientists noted.
>
> > Hansen says that warming can be expected to continue, with another
recor=
d
> > warm
> > year coming soon, though it is unlikely to be 2008.
>
> > "Barring a large volcanic eruption, a record global temperature
clearly
> > exceeding that of 2005 can be expected within the next few years, at
the=

> > time of
> > the next El Nino , because of the background warming trend
attributable =
to
> > continuing increases of greenhouse gases," Hansen said.
>
> > El Nino tends to have a warming effect on temperatures in many areas,
wh=
ile
> > the
> > volcanic ash that an eruption spews into the air has a cooling effect.
>
> > While most scientists agree the planet is warming, the trend does not
> > proceed
> > constantly upward year-by-year. Other factors cause hikes and dips in
th=
e
> > generally trajectory of the global temperature chart, which has been
mos=
tly
> > trending upward since the beginning of the 20th century.- Hide quoted
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Re: Antarctica stubbornly refuses to cooperate with global warmi
Addinall <addinall@[EM  2008-04-06 15:42:58 
Re: Antarctica stubbornly refuses to cooperate with global warmi
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-04-07 09:39:56 

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