Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Play Stock Market Games
Fantasy Stock Picking Contest

Investments > Australian Investments > Alarmists' Quan...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 1 of 2 Topic 10988 of 14064
Post > Topic >>

Alarmists' Quandary

by "0BN0Z" <0BN0Z@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 12, 2008 at 03:07 PM

But as the argument unfolded I realised Spencer was drawing on 
observations and measurements from the new Aqua satellites to explain 
the mechanism behind this anomaly between model forecasts and 
observation. You may have heard that the IPCC models cannot predict 
clouds and rain with any accuracy. Their models assume water vapour goes 
up to the troposphere and hangs around to cook us all in a greenhouse 
future.



However, there is a mechanism at work that "washes out" the water vapour 
and returns it to the oceans along with the extra CO2 and thus turns the 
added water vapour into a NEGATIVE feedback mechanism.



The newly discovered mechanism is a combination of clouds and rain 
(Spencer's mechanism adds to the mechanism earlier identified by 
Professor Richard Lindzen called the Iris effect).



The IPCC models assumed water vapour formed clouds at high altitudes 
that lead to further warming.



The Aqua satellite observations and Spencer's analysis show water vapour 
actually forms clouds at low altitudes that lead to cooling.



Furthermore, Spencer shows the extra rain that falls from these clouds 
cools the underlying oceans, providing a second negative feedback to 
negate the CO2 warming.



Alarmists' quandary

This has struck the alarmists like a thunderbolt, especially as the lead 
author of the IPCC chapter on feedback has written to Spencer agreeing 
that he is right!



There goes the alarmist neighbourhood!



The climate is not highly sensitive to CO2 warming because water vapour 
is a damper against the warming effect of CO2.



That is why history is full of Ice Ages - where other effects, such as 
increased reflection from the ice cover, do provide positive feedback - 
while we do not hear about Heat Ages. The Medieval Warm Period, for 
example, is known for being benignly warm - not dangerously hot.



We live on a benign planet - except when it occasionally gets damned 
cold.


[...]



Dr Marohasy says the impact of the Aqua satellite and Spencer's 
interpretation of the data and prompts the re****ter to conclude with 
some pungent observations of his own:



"If Marohasy is anywhere near right about the impending collapse of the 
global warming paradigm, life will suddenly become a whole lot more 
interesting.



"A great many founts of authority, from the Royal Society to the UN, 
most heads of government along with countless captains of industry, 
learned professors, commentators and journalists will be profoundly 
embarrassed.



Let us hope it is a prolonged and chastening experience!!!!!!!!








Owen McShane

7 Apr 2008

http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=21153&cid=39&cname=NBR







Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"There is no compelling evidence that carbon dioxide has any significant 
control over the direction of global temperature and climate. The 
processes that regulate the interannual to decadal fluctuations of 
climate are poorly understood and, as yet, unpredictable" William 
Kininmonth, Meteorologist, Former Head, National Climate Centre, Bureau 
of Meteorology, 1986-1998
 




 2 Posts in Topic:
Alarmists' Quandary
"0BN0Z" <0BN  2008-04-12 15:07:53 
Re: Alarmists' Quandary
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-04-13 07:19:15 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan12V112 Wed Dec 3 17:30:42 CST 2008.