V-for-Vendicar <Justice@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "0BN0Z" <0BN0Z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > If you guys say that global warming is ALL BAD,
> > then what do you guys say about global cooling
> > and what do you guys consider to be the optinal global temperature?
> > Sounds like a logical question to me.
>
> The optimal temperature is the temperature that the current biota have
> evolved to exist in. And that is the average recent historical
> temperatures.
Crap.
You claim that the current biota have evolved simply because they
exist in the current climate. You don't know if that was the optimal
temp at all. Most scientists would tell you that life prefers a warmer
earth.
>
> Any departure from the optimum, cold-warm, dry, wet, is suboptimal for
the
> biosphere.
Departures from what Global Wankers think is 'THE CLIMATE' have been
always happening. It is the Global Wankers' who think changes are not
a natural process.
>
> When you are on top of a mountain, all directions lead down.
When you are a Global Wanker like you, you have nowhere else to go these
days.
The GW true believers are being brought down to earth, slowly.
> Here are the figures for the last decade.
So let's look at them again....
> 1998 14.57 *********************o*****
Make 1998 the base, since you are making claims about the last decade.
> 1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2001 14.48 ************************o
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2002 14.56 *************************o**
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2003 14.55 **************************o*
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2004 14.49 *************************>>o
Temperature DOWN from 1998
> 2005 14.63 *****************************o**
Temperature UP from 1998
> 2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
>Temperature DOWN from 1998
2007 14.57 *****************************
> Temperature exactly the same as 1998, tens years later !!
> Showing a warming of roughly 2'C per century...
WHAT THE **** ????
The temperature is exactly the same as 1998, tens years later !!
Any measurable warming trend HAS STOPPED !!!!
Your data shows a complete failure of all the wild global warming
predictions. It confirms that any global warming trend STOPPED ten
years ago. There is obviousely something seriously wrong with global
warming
computer models, they are next to useless for predicting future temps.
Every time they fail, the computer models are simply rigged/fudged/faked
to
match the new data - as an independant physical model of the complex
climate system they really are USELESS !!!
When someone actually tried using the best climate models in the world to
fit past data, they failed miserably.
So why would anyone trust any computer climate model predictions ????
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn986-fossils-leaves-reveal-climate-model-errors.html
Fossils leaves reveal climate model errors
The team, involving researchers from the UK, Russia, Sweden and the
Czech Republic, used the leaf fossils to calculate the temperature at
various sites during the Late Cretaceous period, 95 million years ago.
They then used some of the best climate models researchers have on offer,
such as the Hadley Centre's climate model, to calculate what temperatures
at that time might have been like. To their surprise, they found their
results differed greatly.
"We're talking about an error on the order of 20 °C, so it's not small -
not by any means,"
says modeller Paul Valdes from the University of Reading.
The Cretaceous period is of particular interest because volcanoes at the
time
spewed huge amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, warming the
planet up
much in the same way as it is warming today.
And if our models are seriously wrong for the past, Valdes says, then they
could be
equally wrong about the future. "It could be out easily by 5 °C," says
Valdes.
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