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Re: WIKIPEDIA: AGW style

by "0BZN0" <0BZN0@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM

"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:3fbb696a-fc82-4be5-a025-5b0eb61e4506@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Apr 28, 8:57 am, "James" <kingko...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Monday, April 28, 2008
> Wikipedia bias
Now an encyclopedia is biased against you, James?
What's next, a dictionary?
To the truly paranoid, even reality is a conspiracy.
***********************


ROTFLMAO
Coppcock, you are hilarious!!!!!

Don't Trust Wacko Wikipedia Zealots

Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008



http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26/the-real-climate-martians-solomon.aspx



Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists, believes in 
Martians. I discovered this several weeks ago while reading his 
biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. "Do you really believe 
in Martians?" I asked him last week, at a chance meeting at a Wa****ngton 
event. The answer was "No."



Wikipedia's error was neither isolated nor inadvertent. The page that 
Wikipedia devotes to what is ostensibly Fred Singer's biography is 
designed to trivialize his long and outstanding scientific career by 
painting him as a political partisan and someone who "is best known as 
president and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy 
Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific views of climate 
change, ozone depletion, and second-hand smoke and is science advisor to 
the conservative journal NewsMax."



Innocent Wikipedia readers would be surprised to learn that Dr. Singer 
is no conservative kook but the first director of the U.S. National 
Weather Satellite Center; the recipient of a White House commendation 
for his early design of space satellites; the recipient of a 
commendation from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for 
research on particle clouds; and the recipient of  a U.S. Department of 
Commerce Gold Medal Award for the development and management of weather 
satellites.



He is, in short, a scientist of the highest calibre, with a long list of 
major scientific achievements, including the first measurements, with 
V-2 and Aerobee rockets, of primary cosmic radiation in space, the 
design of the first instruments for measuring ozone, and the author****p 
of the first publications predicting the existence of trapped radiation 
in the earth's magnetic field to explain the magnetic-storm ring 
current.



Honest accounts of Fred Singer and his accomplishments have been 
available on Wikipedia, and on hundreds of occasions. Those occasions 
don't last long, however - often just minutes - before the honest 
accounts are discovered and reverted by Wikipedians who troll the site. 
Such trolls continually monitor Wikipedia's 10 million pages to erase 
any hint that the science is not settled on climate change. Dissenters 
by the dozens have been likewise demeaned - to check for yourself, just 
look up Richard Lindzen, Paul Reiter, or any of the other scientists or 
organizations that have questioned the orthodoxy on climate change.



In contrast to the high-handed treatment that greet global warming 
skeptics, those who sup****t the orthodoxy are puffed up and protected 
from criticism, their errors erased and their controversies hushed.



This is the case with Naomi Oreskes, a scientist with a PhD who had 
arrived at an absurd finding: That no studies in a major scientific 
database questioned the UN view of climate change. To bolster her 
standing, those who troll for Wikipedia have done their best to dress up 
her CV - they note that she won a National Science Foundation's Young 
Investigator Award in 1994, that she has been a consultant for various 
government agencies, and that in July she will become provost of an 
as-yet unnamed college of the University of California, San Diego. While 
these accomplishments are nothing to sneeze at, she is no Fred Singer.



In any event, her Wikipedia page is not really about her but her study, 
which has been thoroughly discredited by credible journalists and 
scientists. To suppress these critiques, the trollers apply Wikipedia's 
bewildering rules as to what can and can't appear, and when the rules 
are inadequate, the trollers make up new ones on the fly.



Several weeks ago, as I described in an earlier column, I attempted to 
correct passages on the Oreskes page that would lead readers to think 
her study had been vindicated and also to think that U.K. scientist 
Benny Peiser, one of her critics, had abjectly withdrawn his criticisms. 
Wikipedia's rules thwarted me, used to revert my corrections, again and 
again. Those who came before me in attempting to make corrections, and, 
I would find out, those who came after, were similarly thwarted.



Wikipedia refused to accept Peiser's critique, or his interpretation of 
his own views, or an account of his views that he had provided to me, or 
an account of his views published in a peer-reviewed journal, or an 
account of his views published in The Wall Street Journal, or an account 
of his views published by the U.S. Senate committee on environment and 
public works.



Instead, the Wikipedia trollers insisted that all of the above sources 
were disqualified or irrelevant under Wikipedia rules, and that the 
trollers' own understanding of Peiser's views trumped all others.



Just as the trollers insist on characterizing Fred Singer as believing 
in Martians. When it is the Wickipedian trollers who are from Mars.


-- 



Warmest Regards


Bonzo


".it should not be surprising to see hordes of former Reds, or of those 
who otherwise would have become Reds, turning from Marxism and becoming 
the Greens of the ecology movement. It is the same fundamental 
philosophy in a different guise, ready as ever to wage war on the 
freedom and well-being of the individual." Dr. George Reisman's book 
Capitalism
 




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Re: WIKIPEDIA: AGW style
"0BZN0" <0BZ  2008-04-29 12:53:29 
Re: WIKIPEDIA: AGW style
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-04-29 20:50:40 
Re: WIKIPEDIA: AGW style
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-04-29 21:04:07 

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