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Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathematical Model for Investing...

by "Elle" <honda.lioness@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM

"dapperdobbs" <GeorgeCFL@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> I'm still waiting for you to say "30 to 1 leverage on 
> those credit
> derivatives!" C'mon ... I know you can say it!:-)

Well sure. :-) I absolutely agree with your point that 
leveraging has aggravated the problem "greatly." Though I 
put the last word in quotation marks because it is hard to 
say anything with precision here, regarding the precise 
effects of the leveraging, and relative to the period around 
1991, and just as the August 07 Fidelity re****t that you 
cited points out.

The magnitudes of which you (and Fidelity's paper, etc.) 
speak and other re****ts have me worried that this could be a 
mother of a recession. Hopefully I will be eating my words 
within a year. Whence I hope younger folks here and myself 
will have under our belts one more period of serious market 
correction to temper our thoughts on long term investing.

I do like that my IRA's reinvested dividends pick up more 
shares at bargain prices.

> There were loans made
> to those who could not, it turns out, afford them.
snip for brevity but all points noted

I think there's also a nasty myth going around, promoted by 
our government among others, that owning a home should be 
everyone's goal. As has been much discussed here, renting is 
often the better financial choice. Renting does not 
necessarily mean having less square feet.

Still, I put a lot of blame on those calling themselves 
"mathematicians" who participate in the financial industry. 
Unfortunately I suspect too often they do so thinking they 
can get rich quick through manipulation of numbers, when 
studies attest otherwise. 

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When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathematical
"Elle" <hond  2008-03-19 11:54:48 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
Tad Borek <borekfm@[EM  2008-03-19 13:17:15 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
dapperdobbs <GeorgeCFL  2008-03-19 15:00:49 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
"Elle" <hond  2008-03-19 16:45:59 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
Don <dwzimm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-19 15:14:32 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
"Elle" <hond  2008-03-19 16:45:47 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
dapperdobbs <GeorgeCFL  2008-03-20 04:21:06 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
"Elle" <hond  2008-03-20 10:39:01 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
dapperdobbs <GeorgeCFL  2008-03-20 04:14:42 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
Don <dwzimm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-20 11:50:46 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
dapperdobbs <GeorgeCFL  2008-03-20 15:45:30 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
Don <dwzimm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-21 11:26:42 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
beliavsky@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-21 08:50:18 
Re: When Your Broker Tries to Sell You on a Complicated Mathemat
Augustine <evandro@[EM  2008-03-19 16:46:01 

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