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Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?

by jIM <noreplysoccer@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 8, 2008 at 03:23 PM

On Apr 8, 10:53 am, Bill Woessner <woess...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi all.  I'm seeking advice on whether or not to participate in my new
> employer's stock purchase plan.  I haven't started the job yet so I
> don't have all of the details.  But the benefits crib sheet they gave
> me spelled it out like this: You can contribute up to 10% of your
> salary toward the plan and you purchase the stock at a 15% discount.
> It does not mention how long you are required to hold the stock.
>
> On the surface, this seems like a simple way to get a 1.5% (= 10% *
> 15%)  bonus.  Of course, that assumes the stock stays level.
> Normally, I'm adverse to holding that much stock of a single company.
> So I'd want to sell it ASAP.  But there is the incentive to hold on to
> it for a year to get long-term capital gains treatment.
>
> So basically, I'd just like to hear what other people have to say
> about such programs.  If you have personal experience, so much the
> better!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill

My opinion is that as you have termed your strategy, you are taking on
a lot of risk for a 1.5% annual gain.

I would hold the stock longer in hopes of getting upside appreciation
and improving the return.  I would then counter this by diversifying
other ****tions of ****tfolio.

Is the new employer a large cap, mid cap or small cap?
If a large cap, my suggestion is to reduce overall large cap exposure
in ****tfolio.  If normal allocation to large cap is 30%, maybe reduce
to 25% and hold company stock as other 5%.  Most large caps move in
tandem with each other, there is little additional risk taken relative
to what you do now.

If new employer is a mid cap or small cap this is much harder.  You
are effectively overweighting a sector within that asset class.  My
suggestion would be to add a bond position equal to position in
company stock.  I would not reduce mid or small cap exposure (in
mutual funds) because of where my company stock trades.

I would plan to hold for some time.  As Ernie pointed out, company
stock can be highly profitable if you hold it long enough (and company
is a good company).

I work for a mega cap (we are world's 12 largest employer).  Much of
our revenue comes from overseas.  I hold 4% of my 401k in company
stock and dropped my large cap by 4% and foreign holdings by 4%. and
added  a 4% bond position.  IMO this covers my asset allocation
enough.  I want to take this risk to get higher returns-maybe 20% when
rest of ****tfolio only gets 8% type thing.

I think if you have enough assets (already invested), taking a risk
with a small position makes sense.

If whole ****tfolio was 200k and gained 8% you made $16,000.
If company stock was 20k (10% of above) and gained 20% you made
$4000.  Took 10% more risk and received 25% of the overall gain.  IMO
this is much easier to stomach with a small position in company stock.

Make sure you are rewarded for the risks you take.

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 15 Posts in Topic:
Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Bill Woessner <woessne  2008-04-08 09:53:04 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
BreadWithSpam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-08 10:15:12 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Ernie Klein <ecklein@[  2008-04-08 10:37:39 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Sandra Loosemore <nore  2008-04-08 13:43:27 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Augustine <evandro@[EM  2008-04-08 15:23:35 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
jIM <noreplysoccer@[EM  2008-04-08 15:23:57 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
"Elizabeth Richardso  2008-04-08 18:16:20 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-04-09 18:57:36 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-04-09 19:05:01 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
Sandra Loosemore <nore  2008-04-09 23:27:48 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
"rick++" <ri  2008-04-08 15:52:41 
Re: Employee Stock Purchase Plan?
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-04-08 16:33:09 
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westwood1308-google@[EMAI  2008-04-09 07:12:58 
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Tad Borek <borekfm@[EM  2008-04-18 14:39:02 
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