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Re: Retirement Health care premiums

by Tad Borek <borekfm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 12:14 PM

jIM wrote:
> Assume someone retires around age 50-55
> 
> If person has to pay health care premiums, my understanding is these
> would be considered "pre-tax" items- the premiums lower taxable
> income.  I am curious how this works on three levels.
> 
> 1) Assume a 72(t) is used to fund the early retirement

Jim, health care premiums are truly pretax only when paid through your 
employer. If you pay them out of pocket, they land on Schedule A 
(Itemized Deductions) as a medical expense, which is a category that has 
a 7.5%-of-AGI floor. For many people, this makes them only partially 
deductible, or even not at all (e.g. if you still take the standard 
deduction).

If you have self-employment income (coaching as I recall?), and you 
aren't eligible to participate in a health plan through your spouse's 
employer, you can take an "above the line" deduction on line 29 of Form 
1040. Unlike medical expense/itemized deductions, this isn't subject to 
any AGI floor, but you can only deduct premiums to the extent you have 
self-employment income. You'll still pay self-employment tax on the SE 
income, which isn't the case for health insurance paid through an 
employer. So it's not entirely "pretax" even for the self-employed. This 
is actually an improvement, just a few years ago health insurance wasn't 
fully deductible for the self-employed.

So depending on your overall tax picture they may be fully deductible, 
or not at all. With just IRA income from 72(t) they'd go on Schedule A.

-Tad

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 7 Posts in Topic:
Retirement Health care premiums
jIM <noreplysoccer@[EM  2008-04-23 10:48:51 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
Tad Borek <borekfm@[EM  2008-04-23 12:14:48 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-04-23 12:16:03 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
jIM <noreplysoccer@[EM  2008-04-23 12:48:42 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
"Elle" <hond  2008-04-23 15:32:59 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-04-23 19:16:52 
Re: Retirement Health care premiums
"Elle" <hond  2008-04-24 09:59:07 

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