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Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999

by Ron Rosenfeld <ronrosenfeld@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 06:01 AM

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:57:02 -0500, "Walter_Slipperman"
<WalterS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>Here is what he re****ted to us:
>Aug 99 to Dec 99  = 17.34%
>2000  = 4.33%
>2001 = 0.02%
>2002 = -1.39%
>2003 = 15.91%
>2004 = 11.76%
>2005 = 6.28%
>2006 = 13.23%
>2007 = 2.30%
>
>Overall return from 08/16/99 to 04/24/08 is 6.62%.
>
>This does not take into account the taxes that I had to pay when mutual 
>funds re****ted capital gains, so the return is even lower.  I did not
pull 
>money from the ****tfolio to pay those taxes, instead paying them from 
>another savings account.
>
>Is this a reasonably well managed ****tolio over this time period?  I am 
>aware that I asked him to invest this somewhat conservatively so does
this 
>seem about right?
>

Assuming he is calculating those numbers correctly, I'd say you're doing
very well.  Also, based on the numbers you've posted, I would guess that
the 6.62% is not an "overall" return but rather an annualized return
(6.62%
per year).

Here is a comparison with the S&P 500 Total Return figures during that
time
frame.  The Total Return figures includ reinvestment of dividends.  I only
have month-end figures, so the S&P 500 TR numbers only go through
3/31/2008:

			Walter	S&P500 TR
Aug 99 to Dec 99  	17.34%	 11.18%
2000			 4.33%	 -9.11%
2001			 0.02%	-11.88%
2002			-1.39%	-22.10%
2003			15.91%	 28.68%
2004			11.76%	 10.88%
2005			 6.28%	  4.91%
2006			13.23%	 15.79%
2007			 2.30%	  5.49%
1/1/2008 - 3/31/2008		 -9.44%

Overall, the S&P500 TR index, from 8/1/1999-3/31/2008 showed a total
return
of 14.87% (and an annualized return of 1.61%)

According to the numbers you've posted, your total return from 8/1/1999 to
12/31/2007 is 92.6% with an annualized return of 8.09%.  You only had one
losing year, compared with three losing years for the S&P500 TR.

In addition, your volatility, calculated as the standard deviation of your
returns, is less than that of the S&P 500.  So it appears as if he has
brought you better returns than the S&P500 TR Index with less risk.

I would say this return is well worth his fee.  Your returns, before
taxes,
were 3-4 times that of the S&P500, over a similar time frame.
--ron

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 14 Posts in Topic:
Rate of return since Aug of 1999
"Walter_Slipperman&q  2008-04-26 18:57:02 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-04-26 19:29:10 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
PeterL <po.ning@[EMAIL  2008-04-27 05:58:34 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
Ron Rosenfeld <ronrose  2008-04-27 06:01:04 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
"Walter_Slipperman&q  2008-04-27 11:45:49 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-04-27 12:52:52 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
Ron Rosenfeld <ronrose  2008-04-27 14:30:56 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
"Walter_Slipperman&q  2008-04-29 04:04:03 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
Ron Rosenfeld <ronrose  2008-04-29 07:12:31 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
Don <dwzimm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-27 15:40:28 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
BreadWithSpam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-27 18:36:19 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
"rick++" <ri  2008-04-28 13:11:31 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
"Walter_Slipperman&q  2008-04-29 04:04:13 
Re: Rate of return since Aug of 1999
Ron Rosenfeld <ronrose  2008-04-29 07:45:18 

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