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Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?

by "John A. Weeks III" <john@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 19, 2008 at 07:14 PM

In article <tgjYj.501$4m2.463@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 "Elle" <honda.lioness@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> "Mark Bole" <makbo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> > For purposes of this thread, it seems the distinction is 
> > irrelevant, as the FICO score forecasts *payment* ability, 
> > regardless of whether those payments are to close out a 
> > credit balance, settle a utility bill, pay rent on an 
> > apartment, or return borrowed money.
> >
> > The huge thing that is missing from the forecast, of 
> > course, is the existence of present or future income, or 
> > liquid assets.  What strikes me as peculiar is that I can 
> > have a great FICO score, take out a huge loan,
> 
> But of course, one generally cannot get a mortgage loan 
> without a satisfactory income. I think what is missing from 
> the thread is that, per many sources, the three Cs of 
> mortgage underwriting are credit, capacity, and collateral. 
> The FICO score takes into account only the credit part. 
> Capacity takes into account income (not just amount but type 
> of income and so apparent stability).

I guess I even dispute that statement.  FICO does not look at
assets or savings, only debts.  I think credit part has to
include assets to be fair.  After all, is someone like Bill
Gates a bad credit risk if he has no loans outstanding, and
thus a zero FICO?  And if a person can handle a $200K loan,
but also has another $100K in the bank, aren't they a better
risk than someone with $0K in the bank and $50K in credit card
debt?

I still only see FICO as a measure of how badly a bank can
rip you off, not what a great deal they can give you.

-john-

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How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
"abby" <abby  2008-05-16 14:22:49 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-16 16:45:20 
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bucky3 <bucky3@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 06:19:37 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-17 08:33:31 
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"Default User"   2008-05-17 16:34:04 
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big_ragu50@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-20 04:07:27 
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big_ragu50@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 17:08:23 
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camgere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 17:08:24 
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"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-16 17:31:39 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-16 18:44:16 
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"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-17 02:05:51 
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"Elizabeth Richardso  2008-05-17 10:15:01 
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"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-17 22:14:02 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-16 18:46:20 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-17 10:36:14 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-17 12:15:34 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-17 12:46:33 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-17 15:28:57 
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"Default User"   2008-05-17 16:38:26 
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"Elizabeth Richardso  2008-05-17 17:28:37 
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"Default User"   2008-05-17 22:16:35 
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"Elizabeth Richardso  2008-05-18 14:00:18 
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"Default User"   2008-05-18 22:22:17 
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Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-05-19 12:29:16 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-19 13:15:55 
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"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-19 19:14:15 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-19 20:02:57 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-19 20:19:49 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-05-19 20:31:44 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-21 16:42:10 
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"Default User"   2008-05-19 13:30:28 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-19 20:22:31 
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Douglas Johnson <post@  2008-05-19 21:08:02 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-19 21:36:59 
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Douglas Johnson <post@  2008-05-20 12:42:23 
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"Default User"   2008-05-20 12:25:09 
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Thumper <jaylsmith@[EM  2008-05-20 16:09:23 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
"Default User"   2008-05-20 17:16:07 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-21 16:55:16 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
BreadWithSpam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 12:58:54 
FICO score vs fiscal responsibility.
"Daniel T." <  2008-05-20 18:40:50 
Re: FICO score vs fiscal responsibility.
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-20 19:05:40 
Re: FICO score vs fiscal responsibility.
BreadWithSpam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 19:56:48 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-21 06:15:19 
Re: FICO score vs fiscal responsibility.
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-21 12:15:07 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
Thumper <jaylsmith@[EM  2008-05-19 17:33:47 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-17 17:05:52 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-17 17:28:43 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-17 17:49:55 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-17 18:00:39 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-17 19:21:53 
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"Daniel T." <  2008-05-17 20:57:47 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-05-18 14:00:55 
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joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-17 17:46:39 
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Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-05-19 19:15:11 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
"John A. Weeks III&q  2008-05-19 20:21:59 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
nosmo king <nosmo_king  2008-05-19 12:32:56 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-05-19 18:55:07 
Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"HW \"Skip\&quo  2008-05-20 08:57:08 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
zxcvbob <zxcvbob@[EMAI  2008-05-20 10:34:17 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"Default User"   2008-05-20 12:20:27 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
BreadWithSpam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 13:28:04 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Thumper <jaylsmith@[EM  2008-05-20 16:09:24 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-05-20 23:39:32 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"HW \"Skip\&quo  2008-05-21 13:52:54 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-05-21 18:15:55 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-22 03:32:44 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"Coffee's For Closer  2008-05-25 05:51:09 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-25 09:09:37 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-25 09:53:36 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-25 13:10:39 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
joetaxpayer <joetaxpay  2008-05-21 19:31:52 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Will Trice <wtrice@[EM  2008-05-22 18:34:14 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Augustine <evandro@[EM  2008-05-25 14:20:51 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-25 14:58:02 
Re: Debt (Was: How much is a FICO score worth?)
Augustine <evandro@[EM  2008-05-26 12:55:15 
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"rick++" <ri  2008-05-20 13:22:43 
Re: How Much Is A Credit Score (FICO) Worth?
Mark Bole <makbo@[EMAI  2008-05-20 20:44:00 

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