Re: What do workers compete for?

On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:06:23 +0000, royl wrote:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:28:03 GMT, "Robert J. Kolker"
> <robert_kolker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>Mark Monson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Capital can be
>>> produced, land can't.
>>
>>Tell that to the Hollanders. God made the Dutch, but the Dutch made
>>Holland.
> 
> I have already refuted this lie many, many times, and yet you just keep
> repeating it.  Why?
> 
> The Dutch did not produce any land.  They dried out land that was
> formerly under water.
> 
> Stop lying about it.

I guess he keeps repeating this "lie" because it's an effective counter to
the argument that land can't be produced. Among other things, your
definitions clearly differ since most people don't consider seabed to be
"land".

Having said that, I see a reasonable argument that units of space-time (a
finite volume over a finite period of time) aren't created (or destroyed)
in the environment of Earth nor is mass, and a number of other physical
quantities. So defining "land" to be these space-time quantities (in
suitable reference frames!) is reasonable. And it allows one to
extrapolate this idea to places where surface area may be ill defined
(space and underwater, for example).


Karl Hallowell
khallow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]