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Jan 30, 8:54 pm, Fred Weiss <fredwe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jan 30, 11:43 am, "ruethe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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> > On Jan 30, 9:16 am, Fred Weiss <fredwe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > "force a market oriented..." is a contradiction in terms. Either you
> > > have a free market or you don't - one aspect of which is free trade,
> > > i.e. no restrictions on im****ts or ex****ts.
>
> > Idiocy. There is no such thing as a "free market" where there is an
> > absence of "force". A market requires the enFORCEment of property
> > rights and contracts in order to exist.
>
> Oh please, you are equivocating here like crazy and completely
> dropping the context. Buffet was not at all upholding property rights
> and contracts in his proposal. By constraining im****ts and preventing
> free trade, he was in fact suggesting the exact opposite.
No, I'm not. My point is that markets wouldn't exist at all if not
for government interference in the state of nature. Claims that "free
markets" represent some sort of natural baseline and that any attempt
by government to modify the outcome represents a deviation from that
are inherently self-contradictory.
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sean responds ..
Yes, this is correct. Why did Britain military end up in India, and
running
the whole sub-continent, and the whole world almost?
Because men of business wanted to do business there, but there were
problems
.... so they, the FREE MARKETEERS asked for the Govt to come over, [
spinning
it into some great national interest thing ... you know the honour of king
and country etc ] and wanting the Govt to fix the problem with force, and
setup Govt to keep the "people" in order ... so they could then pack the
tea
and send it to London at a higher profit because the Govt itself carried
the
cost of "security" for the business .... it;s alwasy been this way, it
always will be this way .... the number of zeroes change, but that's what
happens .... in every arena of "trade" and "human endeavour" ... there is
always problems to be sorted. :)
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