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Re: DOW Up 416.66 : Financial Groups' Correction?

by stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 11, 2008 at 04:15 PM

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:43:16 -0500, "John Galt"
<whoisjohngalt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
><stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:171et3di4lsljdm74hnvqb93d00br6s2mt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:47:34 -0500, "John Galt"
>> <whoisjohngalt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>What the Fed is doing now and what they did then could not be more
>>>different.
>>
>>
>> Except it's not. It's created a whole new entity to loan money out
>> with bonds as collateral. But the bonds are about 50% over rated.
>> They're trading good paper for bad. This is not going to end well.
>> IMHO.
>
>1929 was a tight money Fed policy. Today is the opposite. Not the same. 
>Today, the goverment is going with loose money and as you point out, 
>absorbing risk. Today the exposure is topped at 200B, but since they're
only 
>taking the AAA stuff (yes, I know....), one would *hope* that losses
won't 
>top a point or two while restarting the credit market.

But that triple A is almost all bogus. 

Look at this graphic.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iQUy2GaasArs

Look at the column "collateral at risk" defined as percentage of a
bonds total collateral that is 90 days delinquent, foreclosed or
repossessed.

Read this guy on the bonds and fed move. He's the best I think.
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/


>If the taxpayer can restart the markets at the cost of 4 to 10B, it's a 
>bargain. Should have done that instead of the 150B rebate.
>
>JG
>
>
> 
>
 




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DOW Up 416.66 : Financial Groups' Correction?
perrie <perryneheum@[E  2008-03-11 13:30:17 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 13:46:28 
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orangatang1@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 13:46:34 
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mordacpreventor@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-11 14:32:16 
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Christopher Helms <Chr  2008-03-11 14:35:50 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 16:47:34 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 15:18:03 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 17:43:16 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 16:15:35 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 18:38:29 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 16:42:10 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 19:52:34 
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"Econotron" <  2008-03-12 02:00:02 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 21:34:09 
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"Econotron" <  2008-03-12 02:38:07 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 21:46:03 
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"Econotron" <  2008-03-12 03:07:22 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 23:18:32 
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"Econotron" <  2008-03-12 09:42:03 
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Christopher Helms <Chr  2008-03-11 14:45:01 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 15:45:42 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 15:51:07 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 16:16:59 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 16:02:08 
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orangatang1@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 16:30:55 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-11 16:39:09 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 19:28:02 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-11 18:40:17 
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"Econotron" <  2008-03-12 00:59:33 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 19:00:59 
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"basilod" <b  2008-03-12 07:24:24 
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Doobie Keebler <kooper  2008-03-12 05:23:12 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-12 10:12:34 
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stuff_stuff@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-12 16:00:22 
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"John Galt" <  2008-03-12 18:33:07 
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"BuffettHater@[EMAIL  2008-03-12 05:41:50 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 07:32:11 
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Video61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 08:43:17 

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