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Re: Measuring wealth

by "Sean" <hu_me@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 14, 2008 at 10:54 AM

"ZerkonX" <Z@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:pan.2008.03.13.14.47.04@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:37:53 -0700, ta wrote:
>
>> On Mar 12, 11:43 am, ZerkonX <Z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:19:05 -0700, ta wrote:
>>> > What is the most objective measure of an individual's wealth?
>>>
>>> Call in all debts immediately, then go from there.
>>
>> Poorly phrased question on my part.
>>
>> What I really meant was:
>>
>> If someone asks you if you are better off financially today than 10
>> years ago, what is the most objective way to measure that?
>>
>> "Real wages" is the usual term that I have seen most, but I'm just
>> wondering if that is universally accepted, or is there a different/
>> better measure. "Real wages" make good sense to me, but not being an
>> expert in economics, I'm just trying to learn if that is the best way.
>
> I still think the answer applies.
>
> Wages, money in hand and all assets should be counter balanced with debt
> load. This gives a more objective bottom line, I think.
>
> 'Real wages' as a gage to a current financial state, I believe, can be
> deceptive. Same with any 'asset'. What do you actually own. Not what can
> you actually borrow or are borrowing. If wealth is to be measured in
> terms of in hand money and the monetary value of assets owned, then
> exactly who owns the assets, who actually holds the title or deed is the
> first question. Otherwise wealth is just faith in the ability to pay
> debt.
>
>
>

The above would generally apply to individual financial wealth. But is
that 
all that should be considered? I don;t think so.

There is also national, natural, and lifestyle wealth/s. Such things
whilst 
less definable in $ terms, nevertheless impact greatly on one's individual

wealth. The notion of what is "real" is also relevant.

How many simply "believe" an asset such as Shares means $X .... when in 
reality, such shares are only nominal untill actualy sold for cash or
Kind.

National wealth in Assets also must include National [ shared ] Debts to
be 
deducted from it.

Someone on $200k a year, who loses all health Insurance due to
unimployment, 
may not be as "wealthy" as someone on $50k a year in another nation who 
shares in the wealth of a Universal Health coverage that applies whether 
they are working or not.

Two people of the same nominal $ wealth, where one lives in the
countryside 
of Oregan, and the other down the street from Martin Luther King
Boulevarde 
in Miami South enjoy a far different level of "true wealth" imho.

A millionaire living in Florida, is far more "wealthy" than a millionaire 
living in the Sudan in the middle of a civil war.

A US soldier and his family fighting in Iraq for $100k a year, is nowhere 
near as wealthy as Swedish soldier based in Stockholm earning only $60k a 
year and with the same level of personal assets.

The nuances about "wealth" are many and varied I think. It depends on
one's 
ideology, philosphy of life, and values.
 




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Measuring wealth
ta <padlrnc@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-10 09:19:05 
Re: Measuring wealth
Immortalist <reanimate  2008-03-10 09:28:18 
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"deadendDan" &l  2008-03-10 12:43:02 
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MichaelNJ@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-10 09:58:16 
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MichaelNJ@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-10 09:59:17 
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Ed <solon013@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-10 10:48:27 
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royls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-10 18:13:28 
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Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-10 18:41:03 
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ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-03-10 20:31:19 
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royls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-11 17:41:51 
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ta <padlrnc@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-10 12:35:32 
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"Ynot B. Happie"  2008-03-12 09:27:30 
Re: Measuring wealth
Les Cargill <lcargill@  2008-03-10 17:58:28 
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"Tron" <tron  2008-03-11 21:24:40 
Re: Measuring wealth
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-12 15:43:04 
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ta <padlrnc@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-12 10:30:37 
Re: Measuring wealth
royls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-13 20:32:38 
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ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-03-15 04:30:55 
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royls@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-15 20:44:10 
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ta <padlrnc@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-12 10:37:53 
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jmh <jmhall@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-12 21:39:15 
Re: Measuring wealth
Fred Weiss <fredweiss@  2008-03-12 14:41:58 
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ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-13 14:32:35 
Re: Measuring wealth
"Sean" <hu_m  2008-03-14 10:54:38 
Re: Measuring wealth
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-14 15:47:49 
Re: Measuring wealth
"Sean" <hu_m  2008-03-15 12:09:34 
Re: Measuring wealth
MichaelNJ@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-14 09:36:47 
Re: Measuring wealth
"Sean" <hu_m  2008-03-15 12:27:12 

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