On Apr 8, 6:19 am, Straydog <arthu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> visualseep...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 12:32=EF=BF=BDam, Straydog <arthu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > I'll give a few of MY ideas on how to survive.
>
> > > 1. Have a secure job (eg. govt civil service in an essential area,
> > > tenure in academia, etc).
> > > 2. If you lose your job, be able to find a new one quick.
> > > 3. Besides 1 and 2, the next thing is to have enough money in the
bank=
> > > so if you lose your income, then you can still pay the rent and buy
> > > food until things get better.
> > > 4. Become rich so you can utilize option 3.
> > > 5. Find out where the soup kitchens are, where the park benches are
> > > (or bridges) so you can sleep under them at night, in case you can't
> > > use options 4, 3.
>
> > All this is useless advice.
>
> Now I know, for sure, that you are stupid.
>
> > Especially number 4. Does anyone set out to become poor that you are
> > advising them to 'become rich'?
>
> I have read the biographies and histories of a number of rich people.
> Most of them decided, very early in their lives and when they were
> still young, to start as soon as possible and emulate the behaviors of
> people before them who became rich.
>
> > Worst advice is #1.
>
> I know a number of people who had very nice, very cushy, very nicely
> paid, very healthy benefits government jobs. (these jobs are getting
> harder to find now because many govt jobs are no longer civil service
> jobs but contract jobs). One guy was in DoD and now has five pensions
> (he is retired, and went back to work for fun, programing in C, and
> makes $50/hour). He is a personal friend. Another guy I know, all my
> life, worked in a govt lab, as a BSME, and at retirement, at least as
> of a few years ago, is making $85K per year off his pension. Plus
> lifetime govt sponsored health plan which is VERY generous.
>
> > US govt is
> > going bankrupt
>
> I have read more economic history than you. Can you name any
> government, no matter what debt level, no matter where, and besides
> revolutions (such as Marx in Russia in 1917, Iran in '70s, Ferdinand
> Marcos in Phillipines back 2 decades ago, and stuff like that) where
> all the govt employees got flushed out of their cushy jobs and onto
> their *****? I think the vast majority of govts, if they go default
> on foreign loans, all get bailouts and all those cushy govt jobs get
> protected first, before the underlings.
>
> > so anyone foolish enough to think there is a gravy
> > train waiting for him the day he sets foot in the civil service has
> > something else coming.
>
> If you can stand the bull****, and if you do your homework, and not
> make stupid mistakes, then you, too, like many people I read about in
> our local newspapers, working all their lives in local (county and
> state govt, and even the guys I know in fed govt with real civil
> service bureacracy jobs), all come out with fat, juicy, cushy pension
> plans and high benefits in health plan sponsored by the govts, and all
> indexed to inflation.
>
>
>
> > How about one simple piece of advice "be the best in your field or at
> > least move towards that goal and you will (maybe) survive this
> > recession".
>
> This is YOUR big mistake. And, it fits into cor****ate propaganda. The
> first proof that you are wrong is this: You can be the best in your
> field but it does no good if there are ten guys who are best in the
> field and there are only five jobs and that means that five "best in
> the field" don't get jobs. The second proof that you are wrong is that
> what you think is "best in the field" may not be what the employer
> thinks is "best in the field." I have seen jobs out there, in my life,
> go to relatives (who are not the best) or sons or daughters, or they
> go to ***y blond who does blow jobs instead of ugly you who gets work
> done.
>
> > All the rest of the advice from trying to climb onboard some
> > government gravy train hoping someone else's brain power & labor will
> > pick up the slack to sleeping under a bridge is just BS.
>
> You have this idea about castles-in-the-sky, and I'm telling you what
> I have actually seen, and I've probably hired more people than you,
> and helped other people get jobs, and helped people avoid mistakes.
> Also, I formed my own small cor****ation in 1995 and this year I am
> disolving it to fully retire. I was president. A few years ago, I
> hired my wife as vice president.
>
> > How about you try sleeping under a bridge sometime.
>
> No thanks, but for a few months when I was in college, long ago, I had
> no money in my pocket and it was not a nice feeling.
>
> If you are not
>
> > robbed & killed by drug addicts or freaks through the night, its a
> > bonus.
>
> You have to know the safe places to sleep at night, too. You can also
> get robbed and killed by drug addicts, etc., living in your own nice
> home. I read the police re****ts in our local papers on all the break-
> ins where the people living there are assaulted, robbed, beaten, and
> sometimes killed, too. You don't have to be in the park to get
> killed.
>
> Now, if you want, I can expand on my suggestions how to survive the
> depression, or give some new ideas.
>
> I'll advise some bad ideas now:
>
> 1. Play the lotto, horses, gambling, etc.
>
> Here are more good ideas:
>
> 1. Use food coupons, look for sales, discounts.
> 2. Find any books that help you save money in life.
> 3. Start a Roth IRA
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