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Re: Scientific American Article On "Market" Economists

by BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 10, 2008 at 07:04 AM

> >http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=3Dthe-economist-has-no-clothes

> > Using scientific arguments to take out "market" economists is kind of
> > like using a cannon to kill a fly.

> > A science background is nice but you don't need one to discredit
> > "market" economists.

> > Just ask them a simple question anyone can understand.

"Does free speech precede each and every free trade?"

> The central fallacy of free market economics is the apparent absence
> of any kind of recognition of the notion that a market cannot be free
> if one does not have the freedom to also choose to exit the market
> without incurring, as a result, dire consequences to one=EF=BF=BDs life
or=

> livelihood.

Some economists recognize a "safety net" so that everyone can always
exit any market.

But that, like the _Scientific American_ article, is hardly the most
devastating attack on GOP "market" economists who claim we don't need
safety nets.

>  Invariably, the markets where this condition is absent are
> the ones that turn out to be most rife for exploitation, for economic
> divides and where one sees the greatest dysfunctionality and the
> evolution of out-of-kilter pricing or chaotic trends in pricing.

Pejoratives just aren't effective.

> This,
> of course, includes the housing market (at least in the US), as well
> as the markets for energy, food and health care. Only in the case of
> food (at least in the US) does one see a semblance of normalcy --
> which probably has something to do with it being so plentiful (like
> water in most places in the US) that it can practically be given away
> for free.

Markets level wealth which is precisely why GOP "market" economists
always dodge the free speech question;  they _don't_ sup****t free
markets.

> > The answer is a self evident truth yet they will all claim they are
> > too dumb to answer the question.
>
> > They'll suddenly not know the definition of "free trade" or "free
> > speech."
>
> > Why?
>
> > Because they will all openly admit they are too dumb.
>
> > The problem with the "I'm a moron in my field" dodge is =EF=BF=BD. . .
> > well . . . you lose your credibility in your field.
>
> > It's gauche to use a cannon to kill a fly and therefore, the
> > _Scientific American_ article is in bad taste.


Bret Cahill
 




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Scientific American Article On "Market" Economists
Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-07 09:56:29 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-07 13:21:40 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-07 15:01:43 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-08 14:17:39 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-07 22:29:37 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-08 18:09:26 
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jmh <jmhall@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-13 20:03:54 
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William Elliot <marsh@  2008-04-08 00:36:45 
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ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-08 13:13:05 
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"Jerry Okamura"  2008-04-19 08:37:16 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 06:22:12 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 06:57:02 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 07:11:34 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-09 01:20:32 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-08 07:23:05 
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"Andy F." <n  2008-04-11 11:13:36 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-08 07:25:08 
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Fred Weiss <fredweiss@  2008-04-08 11:48:30 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-09 14:01:57 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-09 04:15:04 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:14:19 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-10 01:50:25 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:19:09 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-04-10 01:52:02 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:22:41 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:25:04 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:29:09 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:30:30 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:31:55 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:34:59 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:37:41 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:40:43 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-04-08 21:48:16 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 21:55:23 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 21:59:11 
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Fred Weiss <fredweiss@  2008-04-08 22:08:04 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:09:39 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:13:55 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:15:44 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:21:00 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:25:01 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 22:37:18 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 23:07:53 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 23:08:03 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-08 23:12:46 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 05:18:40 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 05:22:27 
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LauLuna <laureanoluna@  2008-04-09 07:00:38 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 07:17:35 
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Sri Bodhi Prana <bodhi  2008-04-09 07:32:16 
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Sri Bodhi Prana <bodhi  2008-04-09 07:33:29 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 07:37:04 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 08:06:06 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 08:22:05 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 08:35:27 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 08:39:25 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 08:44:27 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 08:48:52 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 09:02:22 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 09:09:14 
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alexy <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-09 17:03:29 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 09:13:23 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 09:17:09 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 09:51:38 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 10:25:33 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 10:28:43 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 10:30:32 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 10:44:56 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 10:51:55 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 11:14:45 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-09 11:33:52 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 17:10:47 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 19:04:58 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 20:38:13 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 20:39:39 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 20:52:44 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-09 21:40:12 
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Rock Brentwood <markwh  2008-04-09 21:52:54 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-10 06:49:58 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-10 07:04:54 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-10 08:11:54 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-10 08:15:36 
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Shrikeback@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-10 18:47:52 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-14 10:17:26 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-14 10:59:28 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-14 11:34:16 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-15 12:10:13 
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"Jerry Okamura"  2008-04-20 07:51:10 
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