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Re: The New Guilded Age

by Richard Eich <richard.eich@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 18, 2008 at 07:29 PM

mikesc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote...
> Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > On Apr 15, 10:27 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> http://emlab.berkeley.edu/users/saez/berkeleysympo2.pdf
> >>
> >> "Figure 2, Panel A plots the top 1% income share in France and the
> >> United States since 1913.20 The patterns are strikingly parallel from
> >> the beginning of the century up to the 1970s. The shares were very
> >> high, around 18-20% in both countries, at the eve of the first World
> >> War.21 The top 1% share is highest in the United States in 1929, at
> >> the onset of the Great Depression. The top 1% income share falls in
> >> both countries during the Great Depression, and especially during
> >> World War II. The fall during World War II is more pronounced in
> >> France, which suffered much more directly from the shock of the war
> >> than the United States.By the end of World War II, top 1% income
> >> shares are around 11% in the United States and 9% in France, about
> >> only 50% of their pre-World War I level. Strikingly, in the
prosperous
> >> years and decades following World War II, top income shares do not
> >> come back to their high levels of the pre-war period, but remain
> >> relatively stable in France or decrease further (and  slowly) in the
> >> United States. In the 1970s, the top 1% income share is around 8% in
> >> both countries. The pattern of top income shares in the two countries
> >> displays a striking contrast over the last 25 years. While the top 1%
> >> income share in France has remained stable around 8% up to year 1998,
> >> the top 1% income share has increased dramatically and is around 17%
> >> in 2000, almost as high as in 1913."
> >>
> >> We have entered a new "guilded age" in the U.S. with huge income
> >> disparities.   As a direct consequence, we are entering a new
> >> Depression.
> > 
> > Actually, that's "gilded age", not "guilded age".  Sorry about that.
> 
> It could be "guilded age" too when you consider all the unions and 
> professional organizations that extort money by virtue of their 
> government enforced privileges.

You might want to check some current stats on unions before you start 
with that line of argument.  Unions have been declining in direct 
pro****tion to the growth of the income share in the top 1%.

-- 
Taxes are not "punishment for success".  Nor are they "theft".  Taxes 
are a royalty paid commensurate to the economic benefit obtained from 
a shared socio-economic system.

"Those who gain the benefit should also bear the disadvantage." 
                                                   - Common Law maxim
 




 34 Posts in Topic:
The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-15 08:27:34 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-15 08:31:44 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Michael Scheltgen <mik  2008-04-15 21:19:03 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Richard Eich <richard.  2008-04-18 19:29:57 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-16 07:45:24 
Re: The New Guilded Age
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-16 15:30:58 
Re: The New Guilded Age
"Mark M." <m  2008-04-16 19:15:35 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-16 09:01:13 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-16 10:28:57 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-16 10:39:31 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-16 11:59:45 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-16 13:52:33 
Re: The New Guilded Age
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-17 13:15:19 
Re: The New Guilded Age
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-17 13:34:15 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-17 08:40:59 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-17 08:42:28 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-17 09:08:04 
Re: The New Guilded Age
"J.H.Boersema"   2008-04-18 15:10:08 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-17 09:55:35 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-18 12:38:26 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-21 10:15:23 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-21 10:48:55 
Re: The New Guilded Age
"J.H.Boersema"   2008-04-23 07:26:54 
Re: The New Guilded Age
MichaelNJ@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-21 10:59:49 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-21 11:07:36 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Mani Deli <nothing@[EM  2008-04-21 16:38:02 
Re: The New Guilded Age
MichaelNJ@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-22 07:00:03 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-22 10:51:13 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-22 11:02:29 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-22 12:07:12 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-23 14:16:37 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-23 14:34:03 
Re: The New Guilded Age
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-23 15:05:16 
Re: The New Guilded Age
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-04-24 07:23:09 

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