On Apr 22, 12:51=A0pm, solon fox <solon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 22, 7:00=A0am, Michae...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 21, 1:07 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 21, 12:59 pm, Michae...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 16, 12:01 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Apr 16, 10:30 am, ZerkonX <Z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:27:34 -0700, Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > > > > > > The patterns are strikingly parallel from the beginning of
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> > > > > > > up to the 1970s.
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> > > > > > Gold Standard go bye-bye. Money becomes separated from a
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> > > > > > standard to a value determined by control and manipulation.
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> > > > > > The rest, as they say, is history.
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> > > > > It's curious how people in the U.S. say we're not in a "Bear
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> > > > > when the value of the U.S. currency has dropped by 50% in the
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> > > > > five years on international money markets, and the Stock Market
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> > > > > just about at the same level it was five years ago. =A0That's a
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> > > > > in effective market capitalization. =A0Not counting inflation.
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> > > > American (who are not involved in currency exchange hysteria) do
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> > > > measure their wealth based off of the Euro.
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> > > > The measure it based off of what in can buy for them. =A0There has
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> > > > been a 50% drop in purchasing power.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > There has been a 50% drop in purchasing power of the dollar on
> > > international markets as compared to the Euro. =A0If you are
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> > > only American products in the United States, the drop in purchasing
> > > power is not as noticeable. =A0As long as you limit yourself to
> > > purchasing American products in the U.S.
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> > Once again a false argument. =A0Most Americans have not seen a 50%
> > increase in the cost of the majority of the goods and services they
> > consume.
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> > While 5-10% of the average families budget has seen a large price
> > increase, most of the budget has seen only a modest increase in cost.
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> > The falling value of the dollar is a much bigger problem for those
> > im****ting goods into the US then it is for the consumer. =A0And it
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> > as a stimulus for American business. =A0 It is an issue, but it is not
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> I agree with the general content of your comments. The weakened dollar
> is good for American ex****ts and it is good for tourists visiting the
> US.
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> Let's not lose sight of the fact that the weakened dollar contributes
> to higher prices at the gas pump. Oil is trading at over $117 per
> barrel; but 117 dollars is 73.17 euros (1.00 Euro =3D 1.60 U.S.
> Dollars). The low value of the dollar is of economic concern. If the
> dollar and euro were evenly matched at 1 to 1, the price of gas at the
> pump would be $2.50 (4 US Dollars =3D 2.50 Euros). Granted, that is a
> bit overstated, because there would be other impacts of a strengthened
> dollar, but the point is that the weakened dollar is having a
> significant impact of $1 or more per gallon of gas.
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> High gas prices mean higher prices in the supermarket and tighter
> budgets for American consumers. The weakened dollar is having a big
> impact on our economy even if it isn't our "biggest" issue.
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> The EU is on the cusp of their own housing market correction and
> credit crisis. Soon, the euro will weaken and the dollar will
> strengthen as our own economy begins to recover.
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In order to make up for the massive decapitalization from the fall in
the U.S. dollar, the DOW would have to get to 30,000 or so in the next
few weeks in order for the economy to recover later this year. Ain't
agonna happen. I mean for it to grow significantly. We might have
zero growth or 1 percent growth from time to time.
There is no massive housing crisis in Europe. Just in some areas too
closely tied to the U.S. market, like Switzerland, Ireland, Spain.
Not Britain, France or Germany. Their economic growth will be slowed
by the problems in the U.S., but their currency will remain stable.
Because socialism works better than capitalism. As you are currently
observing.
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