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Re: Solution to the energy shortage?

by Ben Goren <ben@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 06:38 PM

Kadaitcha Man wrote:

 >> Whose ``proof'' did you qu<*****SLAP>
 >
 > That was made clear, you dense ****.

No,  you  did  not  give  credit. Instead,  you  most  shamelessly
plagiarized (and, let's be honest  here, corrupted -- that ``God =
Metaphysical  X'' bull****  was nowhere  in the  original, and  it
disastrously weakens the proof) the work of Kurt Godel.

You also ignored all the op****tunities I gave you below to elevate
this to a meaningful discussion.

You are not worthy.

I'll throw  you a couple  quick bones,  though, before I  send you
packing.

Mr. Godel worked hard, very hard,  on the ``proof'' you posted. He
very  much wanted  to prove  the  existence of  his god. He  never
succeeded, though, which  is why he never  published the proof. He
found it compelling, but not convincing.

The  proof is  a formalization  of Anselm's  Ontological Argument.
Anselm  of  Canterbury was  an  eleventh  century philosopher  and
theologian. His argument,  in its essence, is  that, for something
to be perfect, it must  exist; therefore, God, being perfect, must
exist.

Stripped down like that, the flaw is obvious: there's no reason to
assume that perfection actually exists. And  it's the same flaw in
Godel's  own argument  that  renders the  whole thing  invalid. In
Godel's case,  it's when he  argues that ``Necessary  existence is
positive.''  That  just comes  out of  nowhere; there's  simply no
reason to blindly assume that existence is necessarily better than
nonexistence. And, for that matter, no way to prove it, either.

One last  little bone before I  leave you to your  sadly puffed-up
opinion of yourself. Most  gods wor****ped today are  alleged to be
omnipotent.  But,  if you read  my .sig  a few lines  down, you'll
see  that ``omnipotence''  is  itself  a self-contradictory  term,
even more  than ``the  largest prime  number.'' And all  the other
omni-properties shared by most modern gods fall to similar proofs,
too.

Cheers,

b&

-- 
EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
``All but God can prove this sentence true.''


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RichD <r_delaney2001@[  2008-04-27 03:14:39 
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