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Re: causes of the depression

by The Trucker <mikcob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 06:52 PM

On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:36:55 -0700, Su**** Fish wrote:

> On May 3, 8:17 pm, orangata...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> On 2 May, 22:02, Ron Peterson <r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > On May 2, 1:12 pm, orangata...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>
>> > > It has long been recognised that deflation is the main cause of
>> > > recessions and depressions.
>>
>> > What causes deflation? And, how do you know that?
>>
>> > --
>> >    Ron
>>
>> Inflation is caused by increasing the amount of money in circulation.
>> Roughly speaking, if the amount of money in circulation doubles the
>> value of money halfs. So, if the fed creates a lot of new money
>> inflation increases.
>>
>> Deflation is a contraction of the amount of money. If the amount of
>> money in circulation decreases the value of each unit of currency
>> increases.
>>
>> Credit created by banks is interchangable with money. When a bank
>> gives you a credit card with a 10000 dollar limit it does not need to
>> have the 10000 dollars in its vaults. It only needs to have 10% of the
>> amount it lends as reserves, as i pointed out earlier.  so the bank
>> can create 9000 of those dollars out of thin air.
>>
>> thus  a credit card increases the amount of money in circulation,
>> causing inflation. If the credit card is taken away the amount of
>> money in circulation decreases, causing deflation.
> 
> 
> best explained by examples by simplified economic
> 
> INFLATION (same thing costs more)
> 
> imagine there is a fish market somewhere in Amazon to serve a village
> of 500 families, after a while there is a balance of fish (supply) and
> demand (money, demand for fishes)  that is on an average day, there is
> $100 to buy 1000 lbs of fish, it means
> 
> 100 dollars = 1000 lbs of fish ---> $1.00 = 10 lbs of fish. (supply
> =  demand)
> 
> Suddenly, there is a travel agent who discovers this quaint town and
> gringos tourists come. they like fish also and along with locales,
> they bring $200 to buy fish, it caught the fishermen by surprise, the
> supply is the same: 1000 lbs of fish. while the money in market is
> $300 = $200 + $100, it doesn't take long for fishermen to figure out
> they make a nice living:
> 
> $300 = 1000 lbs of fish ---> $1.00 = 3.3 lbs of fish (supply =
> demand)
> 
> the fish price raise 3x because there is 3 times the demand (money in
> circulation), this can be classified as inflation, same thing that
> costs more than it was, or the devalue of the money that has 1/3 of
> its former value, the one dollar is the same, but it buys less fish
> thus has less value
> 
> DEFLATION (good become less expensive)
> 
> since gringos don't speak local language, one day they just disappear
> back home, so no more $200.00, only $100.00 from locales.
> 
> $100 = 1000 lbs of fish     ----> $1.00 = 10 lbs (demand = supply)
> 
> compared to previous time, the supply looses its value, fish has new
> lower price, adjusted for available money in the market.
> 
> ------------------
> 
> this is rudimentary, true for current housing price and Dow Jones at
> 13000.

No.  "flation" is anywhere and everywhere a monetary phenomenon. You are
showing examples of supply and demand in a real market for goods and
services.  That is absolutely _NOT_ in/de flation.  True inflation is
caused by declining value of the currency itself.

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of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
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causes of the depression
orangatang1@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 14:53:05 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-04-29 22:07:43 
Re: causes of the depression
"Dan in Philly"  2008-04-30 10:51:41 
Re: causes of the depression
Ron Peterson <ron@[EMA  2008-04-30 07:15:16 
Re: causes of the depression
orangatang1@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-02 11:12:24 
Re: causes of the depression
Robert Vienneau <rvien  2008-05-03 07:28:53 
Re: causes of the depression
Ron Peterson <ron@[EMA  2008-05-02 22:02:06 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-03 08:28:22 
Re: causes of the depression
orangatang1@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-03 20:17:31 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-03 21:14:41 
Re: causes of the depression
Les Cargill <lcargill@  2008-05-04 00:32:44 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-03 22:15:00 
Re: causes of the depression
jmh <jmhall@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-04 15:05:34 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-04 08:55:58 
Re: causes of the depression
"Mark M." <m  2008-05-04 15:18:29 
Re: causes of the depression
jmh <jmhall@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-05 23:44:02 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-05 19:46:14 
Re: causes of the depression
jmh <jmhall@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-08 00:10:29 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-07 17:56:10 
Re: causes of the depression
Ron Peterson <ron@[EMA  2008-05-04 08:36:37 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-04 09:14:02 
Re: causes of the depression
Sushi Fish <yellowtail  2008-05-05 10:36:55 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-05 18:52:39 
Re: causes of the depression
Sushi Fish <yellowtail  2008-05-06 14:59:02 
Re: causes of the depression
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-06 18:27:22 
Re: causes of the depression
"Mark M." <m  2008-05-06 20:34:08 

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