I remember JJ and the content/debates from many years ago. As far as
my views are concerned, the imperitive for anyone born in the USA is
going to be that they, themselves, need to spend a lot of time doing
research on a) _placement_ rates after people finish school programs,
and b) where the jobs will be where those jobs will be most easy to
get. This is because the applicant to job ratio in quite a few areas
is very high, sometimes even for dumb Walmart jobs, and whether any
given job is going to be subject to "replacing" the existing employee
with anyone that they might find who will work for less money and
regardless of whether the pay rate is acceptable for traditional US
standards of living. The way it looks to me (sup****ted by results of
many studies described in the media) is that people in the lower 2/3
of the socio-economic scale will be worse off in the coming decades
than they are today.
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On May 9, 12:00 pm, T. Keating tkuse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> A little wisdom from the past..
> This is a copy of one of my reply post directed towards JJ I
> composed/posted back in April 2001...
>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants
> Message-ID: <3acd7331.64548103@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:45:44 GMT
>
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> On Fri, 06 Apr 2001 03:05:21 -0400, American Programmer
>
> <diogenes-no-s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >It's actually a good thing that managers did NOT grow to like
telecommuting.
>
> Too bad, since the U.S. was fairly close to being the ideal country
> for remote development, but the expansion of H1-B program pretty much
> killed off that fledgling industry. I.E. The cost of local tech
> industry development was being constrained by local factors, cost of
> housing, wage competition, relocation expenses, etc.
>
> A lot of the tech Industry was planning on the telecommuting becoming
> a substantial new industry. Ton's of fibre was laid, big investments
> in telecom., etc. When the new industry failed to materialize, it
> eliminated a lot of those business models, thus is another factor in
> the current tech wreck.
>
> That new model would have allowed the U.S. to transition to a more
> efficient work system. Where a teleworker's impact on the
> environment/society is greatly reduced. They no longer have a daily
> need for roads, cars, driving to work, office buildings, etc.
>
> Once H1-B was expanded, most of the constraining local factors driving
> telecommuting vanished. Housing, no problem for a single person
> living with seven room mates. Trans****tation, locating housing next to
> a 1st world industrial/office park is not an issue, when compared to
> living in a 3rd world country. Relocation expenses are nearly
> non-existant, maybe a plane ticket. Wage competition, well, I think
> we all know where that argument goes.
>
> >Think about it: If managers became comfortable with employees working
off
> >site, it wouldn't matter whether you're working from San Jose or
Bangalore.
> >Managers would hire people from the latter since the cost of labor is
MUCH
> >lower there. Anyone wanting to work from home that resided in a high
cost of
> >living area would ultimately be SOL.
>
> There are lots of other factors that deter foreign contracts.
>
> Some reasons are:
> Lack of a consistent legal system to enforce contracts and protect
> IP.
> Reliable low cost communication links are often not available.
> How stable is the local power grid, if it exists.
> High Im****t tarrifs/bribes required and other impediments for the
> trans****t of products/equipment needed for conducting business.
> Non-existant tech sup****t/supply infrastructure to make even minor
> repairs, etc.
>
> Just some thoughts about a Golden age that may never happen.
> All thanks to Congress selling out to the tech industry, for a few
> measly bribes/campaign donations.
>
> Tim Keating
>
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>
> Fast forward to May 9, 2008
>
> Crude oil approaching $130 per barrel. Gasoline headed to $4 a
> gallon.. Gasoline proces will probably hit $7 per gallon before
> years end..
>
> Runaway inflation.
> Housing crash due to prices exceeding the ability of stagant(devalued)
> wages ability to carry debt load.
> Another couple of trillion dollars of debt accumulated and wasted
> pacifying areas of the middle east for zero effect. (DOD
> expenditures.)
>
> This outcome brought to you by a President Bill Clinton, The Neocons,
> and a Republican Congress.
>
> Shrub (Bush) had the power to mitigate the damages, but instead made
> things much worse. Invaded Iraq, signed several bills authorizing
> additional visa program expansions, and recently used, (April 2008),
> administrative powers to expand foreign tech labor pool in the U.S.
> by another 400,000.
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