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Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil is

by Stray Dog <straydog2008@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 01:30 PM

On May 9, 2:54 pm, The Trucker <mik...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 12:00:56 -0400, T.Keating wrote:
> > A little wisdom from the past..
> >    This is a copy of one of my reply post directed towards JJ I
> > composed/posted back in April 2001...

deleted Tim Keating's material since it can be found in another post.

> > This outcome brought to you by a President Bill Clinton, The Neocons,
> > and a Republican Congress.
>
> I really get sick of the Clinton ba****ng.  The blame for most of the
stuff
> you correctly see as a problem is squarely on the Republican Congress.

My view is that most people are picking their favorite political party
for either blame (or credit) when the underlaying problem is the
influence that Big Business has with the politicians, no matter which
ones are in office.

 It
> is and was the constant "government is bad" and "free markets solve all
> problems" from every bull horn in America that created the Republican
> Congress and left Clinton in a very politically weak position.

I just want to tell everyone that I just finished reading William
Greider's book "One World, Ready or Not--The Manic Logic of Global
Capitalism" and I would have to say that it is so far the best anti-
globalism book I have read so far. Very well researched, lots of
references, and reasonable.

Everyone needs to understand how lobbying, PR, advertising, campaign
contributions, caucuses cause all of our politicians to _speak_ as
much platitudes that are whatever the constituents want to hear to get
the votes and then _act_ in ways to dilute any law formation, stall on
passage, or otherwise let loopholes form (and even if loopholes are
not formed, then management consultants, lawyer groups, and accounting
firms will step forward to provide schemes, scams, and frauds of all
manner to benefit the overlings),

One book I read some ten years ago was "Confessions of a Union Buster"
by Martin Jay Levitt. Here was a guy, paid by management, whose job it
was to screw employees every way possible and after a couple of
decades the guy saw the light and wrote his expose'.

Until we get the influence of Big Business out of the politicians
offices, you're going to _hear_ one thing and _feel_ something else.

 He could
> "go with the flow" or just let the Republicans have a clear shot at the
> White House in 2000.  He tried, but he didn't make it.  The Pukes took
> over the entire world in 2001.  There is no way that you will ever
> convince me that a more "left" lean by Clinton would have stopped
> Pinocchio Bush in 2000. As it was he actually won, as we know.  The
> Supremes crowned Bush Emperor in 2000, but Clinton tried. Al Gore tried
to
> go left and the world was lost.

I'm sorry but I don't think there is a really honest political party
out there. Here and there, maybe a better one than another, but you
have to write up your own list of characteristics and hope for the
best.

> >  Shrub (Bush) had the power to mitigate the damages, but instead made
> > things much worse.   Invaded Iraq,

All on a lie: WMD in Iraq and my proof of the impotence of the present
system is that Bush should have been impeached for the lie, and there
is barely a whisper about impeachement and yet look at the uproar that
happened over Clinton with Lewinsky. Yes, Bill was naughty but that
was infinitesimal compared to Iraq which is egg on our face in terms
of the rest of the world.

signed several bills authorizing
> > additional visa program expansions, and recently used, (April 2008),
> > administrative powers to expand foreign tech labor pool in the U.S.
> > by another 400,000.

And, its all primarily done to cut costs of labor, nothing else. The
rich get richer, the poor poorer.

> The Republicans have always sought a caste society where the aristocracy
> dictates the morality by ruling with an iron economic fist.  Your
position
> in the society is based on your loyalty to the privileged caste.

Which is pro****tional to how much money you have. If you  are Warren
Buffett, you are a saint. If you are broke, then its your fault only.

 The
> destruction of the US dollar is part of the destruction of economic man.
> When there is no money then there is no way to keep score.  The winners
> are whoever the Republicans care to anoint.  The Republicans create
money
> as they need it.  They don't need no stinkin taxes.

You need to look at David Cay Johnston's book "Perfectly Legal" to see
how rich people dodge taxes and save $billions by all manner of
techniques not available to the rest of us. Yes, I read the book,
cover to cover.

I've been reading history books for the last 7-8 years and quite
frankly sometimes I think, besides our material standard of living
today, there were a few kings and emperors in the past who actually
did something good for the people. On the other hand, I have yet to
read very much about any (repeat: any) rich people doing much for
anyone except themselves.


> --
> "I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
> of society but the people themselves; and
> if we think them not enlightened enough to
> exercise their control with a wholesome
> discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
> them, but to inform their discretion by
> education." - Thomas Jeffersonhttp://GreaterVoice.org/extend
 




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Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil is u
T. Keating <tkusenet@[  2008-05-09 12:00:56 
Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-09 11:54:01 
Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil
Stray Dog <straydog200  2008-05-09 13:30:25 
Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil
The Trucker <mikcob@[E  2008-05-09 14:36:23 
Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil
Stray Dog <straydog200  2008-05-09 15:58:22 
Re: Wisdom from the past...(a.c.c. repost ... now that peak oil
Stray Dog <straydog200  2008-05-09 13:08:56 

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